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Post 1 made on Thursday March 13, 2003 at 15:21
Jason M Ingalls
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I'm not gonna jump to the quick conclusion like many have that this things is a POS....even though certain things thus far make me think it is ;) What I am having trouble with is changing the Hexidecimal values of any IR code. It doesn't seem to matter whether it was a IR database code or a captured code. I can hit the button to view IR data and can see all the hex values....can even click on them and erase them, but it won't let me put in any new data. Doesn't matter whether I try to type in the values or use copy/paste. I have been using Pronto Pro edit and older versions of software for many years now so I am not new to this software. I can still change my hex values on my pronto pro/1000/2000 etc software with np, but can't seem to do it on this new software. Checked any new .ini file to make sure it didn't need any value changes but I am completely lost. Hope someone can help ;)

Jason
Post 2 made on Thursday March 13, 2003 at 15:38
Cooch
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Are you in advanced mode?
Post 3 made on Thursday March 13, 2003 at 15:42
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Check these two links and see if they help....

[Link: remotecentral.com]

[Link: remotecentral.com]

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Post 4 made on Thursday March 13, 2003 at 16:44
chill
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Make sure that if you are copying and pasting that you do not leave any trailing characters at the end of the hex string (i.e. space or hard return). I had the same problem when copying a hex string from a web page.
Post 5 made on Thursday March 13, 2003 at 20:32
Mike Clark
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I have edited IR codes, cut and pasted into the 3000 without problem. They work. don't do what I want, but they work. I am still trying to get a code to repeat without holding down the button. Simply linking codes hasn't worked. I've tried every variation recommended or I could think of.
Post 6 made on Sunday March 16, 2003 at 09:17
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On 03/13/03 20:32, Mike Clark said...
I am still trying to get a code to repeat without
holding down the button. Simply linking codes
hasn't worked. I've tried every variation
recommended or I could think of.

A learning remote has to learn a button correctly (as one keypress) no matter how long you hold it down (since you can't control that to the microsecond). So it will always correctly learn just one Press of the button. If it learns it as repeating, that's a bug.

Given this, it's not clear that the remote would be designed to allow it to send a repeating code, since it can never learn one in the first place.

You do know that a repeating code is not just repeated copies of a single press? If not, refer to some of the documentation on IR codes found in the files section of Remote Central for the older Pronto.
Barry
Post 7 made on Friday March 28, 2003 at 14:11
T M Hall
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I have a CCF file I have used many times for Sony XBR televisions. I have never had any problem using the codes with the Pronto. Today I imported the file to PENG. Many of the codes converted, but some (ie. "menu", "exit") did not. When I try to copy/paste, PENG gives the Invalid Code Error. Upon inspection of the original codes, they are extremely short bursts. Does PENG have a minimum for ir codes? Can you disable the code inspection?
Post 8 made on Friday March 28, 2003 at 16:59
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No way to disable that I know of.

If it is a dirty code PENG can not convert it and will give that error. You could try learning that IR code directly, using the remote to remote learning through PENG. You could also look at someone else's PCF of CCF for a Sony TV and see what their codes look like and maybe try them.

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Post 9 made on Friday March 28, 2003 at 17:22
T M Hall
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I am going to try to learn the codes directly from the remote, but do not have access to it yet. It just seemed strange. As many times as I've used that CCF you would think dirty codes would have caused some problems by now. This is the first problem I've had with PENG, and am on my fourth CCF in two weeks. Thanks.
Post 10 made on Friday March 28, 2003 at 22:08
Mike Clark
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On 03/16/03 09:17, bdorfman said...
A learning remote has to learn a button correctly
(as one keypress) no matter how long you hold
it down (since you can't control that to the microsecond).
So it will always correctly learn just one Press
of the button. If it learns it as repeating,
that's a bug.

Given this, it's not clear that the remote would
be designed to allow it to send a repeating code,
since it can never learn one in the first place.

You do know that a repeating code is not just
repeated copies of a single press? If not, refer
to some of the documentation on IR codes found
in the files section of Remote Central for the
older Pronto.

First let me say everything I think I know about IR codes has been learned from the doc "PRONTOEDIT Learned IR Code Display Format".
In general an IR code can have two sections for sending instructions - the "one-time" send section which works when you tap the button, and the "repeat' send section which works when you hold down the button.
I am trying create a code that will duplicate holding down the key to activate the repeat section, without actually holding down the key. For example, I tried linking the basic code many times. No luck. I tried creating an IR code with only the repeat section and linking it many times to the basic IR code. no luck. I tried many other variations. no luck. The codes I created seem to work by themselves but linking them does not maintain the IR signal in a steady stream the same way holding the button down does.

I used to have one of the original Prontos. I was able to simulate holding down the key by simply linking the code several times. I don't know why this doesn't seem to work with the 3000.
Post 11 made on Saturday March 29, 2003 at 13:28
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I did something similar with the 2000. I had the volume down linked six times, no delays. This was enough to turn down the volume completely on my Denon receiver from my normal listening volume. The pronto sends the codes faster than I can press with my finger, that is why it seems to work. The 3000, on the other hand, sends macros slower. Hopefully, this will change with new firmware. For the 3000 to send the same macro I would have to link many more times. This scenario probably won't work for every command but it seems to work for the volume codes I have. In the past I have learned Denon volume codes even from the same remote and they did not continue to send out the code when the pronto button was held down. So it depends how you learn the code into the remote. At least for some equipment.
Jon
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