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Post 1 made on Friday March 7, 2003 at 07:16
Christopher Loker
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Just got my new 3000. Here are a few observations/questions:

1. It is slower sending out the IR than my old 1000 - however it allowed me to remove many of the short delays between IR codes I had in my old config and still works well. With the delays removed it is only slightly slower than the 1000.

2. Appears that the side buttons will work on first press with the touchscreen off. The lower buttons all seem to require you to press once to turn on the touchscreen and then press again. Also the side buttons will turn on the touchscreen - pretty useless for volume/channel/mute. Can anyone confirm this? Seems like they really need each button to be configurable as to activate touchscreen Yes/No (only the activate touchscreen buttons then requiring a double press).

3. Visually screen is better than the 1000. I like the bluer tint.

4. Remote is not as easy to 1 hand hold as the old pronto - feels a little bulkier. Still not bad.

5. Am I the only one who would also like control of the Page UP/Page Down buttons for programming. With the Pad at the bottom I am trying to get my devices down to 1 page each so a scroll up/down is not needed. What I need is a page up/page down for my Channel guide etc. and this would be perfect. Anyone request this feature with Philips?

Overall impression is that the remote is very good - the firmware and software still need some work. However, having had my 1000 since they first came out I have confidince that Philips will address the issues.
Post 2 made on Saturday March 8, 2003 at 00:34
remote618
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Yes, having to press some of the lower hard buttons twice to send is ridiculous and very annoying. Defeats the purpose of a hard button. The navigation buttons don't have this problem. On the TSU2000, none of the hard buttons activated the touch screen. Here all hard buttons activate the touchscreen. After forking out $300, I hope Philips fixes these hard button issues "pronto"

Also the four corner hard buttons around the navigation button have to be pressed harder than they should to actuate. Maybe they'll loosen up with use.
OP | Post 3 made on Saturday March 8, 2003 at 07:42
Christopher Loker
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Yes - I did notice on the home button a light tap doesn't work - need to be pressed fairly firm. The jump being a little slow probably makes it appear even worse. Not terrible though - but in the case of home it should activate the touchscreen. That is why I say with the additional buttons we really need the ability to tell it when programming activate/no activate. Although I guess activating by default would be best if only one option. Then that leaves the double press issue - which is definately a bug.
Post 4 made on Sunday March 9, 2003 at 11:00
bdorfman
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On 03/07/03 07:16, Christopher Loker said...

5. Am I the only one who would also like control
of the Page UP/Page Down buttons for programming.
With the Pad at the bottom I am trying to get
my devices down to 1 page each so a scroll up/down
is not needed. What I need is a page up/page
down for my Channel guide etc. and this would
be perfect. Anyone request this feature with
Philips?

I think you're talking about "Cursor navigation". No need to request a feature from Philips; just turn it off! Since the buttons are clearly programmable in PENG why did you think they weren't programmable?

By default, the button to the upper-left of the cursor pad toggles cursor navigation on/off. If your remote is device-oriented, its probably a good feature. If your activity-oriented, I don't find it so useful.

You can also go into page 2 of Settings (reached by tapping the picture of the remote on the top line) and turn Cursor Navigation off completely.

As for the double-press, I like it and don't consider it a bug at all. I would agree that it would be better controlled as an option. If you're groping in the dark, how do you know that you've pressed the correct button until you have the light on to see what you're pressing?
Barry
Post 5 made on Sunday March 9, 2003 at 11:46
gmaxwelljr
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I personally feel from selling/programming 1000s and 2000s that this product really is "new". The PeNG software isn't anything like Pedit4 really, lots of things are now called others. But, I feel like if the Pedit4 software or Pedit in general was more like PeNG, my learning curve wouldn't been so great, I found PeNG to be a bit cryptic, but having a background in HTML Interfaces, it wasn't hard to pick up on... just learning to call backgrounds panels... and BTW: Why can't the damned things just be called BACKGROUNDS... one of my petty gripes (seperate from my bug gripes) about the software.

As for the remote, my company has found alot of the buttons to be easier. When we programmed Pup and Pdown keys before, they were soft and had to be hit just right to work them. So the left hand side buttons are a welcome change. The one thing that I don't like... and it doesn't seem like the problem has been fixed yet, is the TOOL hard key. We've actually had clients accidently delete devices and buttons without knowing. And of course no one wants to really pay for their own mistakes, but they sure expect you to fix them.

As a whole, like I said before my speech, this seems more like a "new" product or "new" device. And it will take a while to fix everything. All I see is how people don't like the remote... I say don't use it, take it back, and go home to the TSU1k or 2k forum(and that doesn't include the original poster for this thread). But for those of us who see the potential, hang on because it's going to be a sweeter ride than the ugly TSU2ks'.

G


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