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Hard key defaults? Also, hard key label bug.
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Post 1 made on Sunday February 16, 2003 at 22:28
Mike Clark
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Anyone know how to create a definition for a hard key that will pass through to all devices unless they are otherwise defined?

Also, I have found that the label on Firm 2 and Firm 3 get corrupted easily. Something causes them to spontaneously append the label to itself multiple times. Sometimes another label name is appended.
Post 2 made on Monday February 17, 2003 at 02:43
John Sully
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AFAIK there is no way to have a global definition for hard buttons which punches through to all devices. I just did the extra work. I was a bit of a PITA, but it works.

The labels on Firm 2 and Firm 3 will get stuff appended to them if you enter stuff using the label button. If you want to change the label, delete the current label and then use the label button, or just enter the label in the text box provided.
Post 3 made on Tuesday February 18, 2003 at 18:05
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John,
Where to you get the idea that the hard buttons can not be assigned globaly????

If they can't be done globaly, then what's the point of the hard buttons?

To set them globaly, go to system properties in the tree and select hard buttons. This will make that button to be the same through out the remote. UNLESS you over ride it with something in a device properties. But it will still operate the same in the rest of the remote as it is in the system properties.

Rob
OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday February 18, 2003 at 23:58
Mike Clark
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Well maybe I am doing something wrong. I started with all of the hard buttons emtpy on all devices. In the system I created a macro for hard keys 2 and 3. The macros show up correctly in the system but keys 2 and 3 in the devices remain blank. Do I need to do something else?

Also, in the device hard keys, I can link to all other devices except the system. The system is not listed. Is this normal?

There is no mention of default hard keys in the help.
Post 5 made on Wednesday February 19, 2003 at 02:02
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On 02/18/03 18:05, King of typos said...
John,
Where to you get the idea that the hard buttons
can not be assigned globaly????

If they can't be done globaly, then what's the
point of the hard buttons?

I found out about this, as far as I am concerned, bug by setting my hard keys to the defaults I wanted in system properties and finding that on the real remote they weren't available on any of my devices. Same thing when I tried assigning them using home properties.

So it may be a PITA compared with the treatment of global hard keys on the 1000/2000 but you need to assign every hard key you want to have a function associated with in each device. However, this does go a lot faster in PENG than it did in PE.

Mike,

AFAIK, you can't link to the system hard keys. This may be a bug which is introduced due to the fact that the system pages are dynamically generated. I did notice that there is no mention of being able to set global defaults for hard keys in the help, this was a tip off that the behavior I was seeing, but not expecting, was normal for the new remote.

--John
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday February 19, 2003 at 08:39
Mike Clark
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Can someone explain the difference between the home page and the system page? Why are they separate?
Post 7 made on Wednesday February 19, 2003 at 16:35
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The home page is what you put on it.

And the system page is what the remote puts on it. That is if you want it to show. If you don't want it to show, just click it to be removed. You can always add it later if you want it back.

Rob
Post 8 made on Thursday February 20, 2003 at 21:55
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The hard keys can not be assigned globally throughout all devices. They can be set for all pages in one device but, that must be "aliased" or added to each device. I confirmed this with Philips @ a CEDIA training session. That is on the list of things to "fix" in the firmware update but as of now this is the way it is.
Post 9 made on Thursday February 20, 2003 at 22:18
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Did they mention what else might be on this list or when some type of update would be available?
Jon
Too many toys, too little time.
Post 10 made on Friday February 21, 2003 at 22:47
charion
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The Next update is about a month out and the biggest thing on the list was the right most hard button to be programmable as well as the ability to "hide / Change" the tools button.
They are also some other bugs that are on the list they have. It was somewhat comforting to know how much they look at this forum and use the feedback they see.
Post 11 made on Friday February 21, 2003 at 23:51
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I believe I attended the same CEDIA training as charion. One point they are also addressing is the inability to hide pages. We have the ability to hide devices right now, and the update should enable the page is hidden capability.


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