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Replacing batteries inside battery pack?
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Post 1 made on Sunday March 16, 2003 at 11:43
Mister Man
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I read something about this in another thread but I thought I'd start a new one thinking that it might get more views.

Let me get this straight...

If I have a bad Philips battery pack I can remove the batteries inside the pack and replace them with regular NiMh ones and it will work?

The reason I ask is I bought a TS1000 and docking station from a guy. He never used the D/S and when I tried to charge the battery it only lasts for 1-2 mins. once charged.

I guess I should also ask how do you know if it is indeed the battery that is bad or the charger?

My battery and docking station is brand new but was never used for almost 3 years. I have heard that NiMh batteries have a shelf life even if not used?

The symptoms of mine are... the light stays on for maybe five mins tops then goes out. The charge lasts for maybe a couple mins then goes completely dead.
Post 2 made on Sunday March 16, 2003 at 11:58
star50fiveoh
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On 10/13/02 05:20, Barrier said...
The docking station can only recharge the Philips
genuine batteries, as they have special sense
connections.

If you already own a Philips battery pack which
is out ouf usage, you can probably open it and
replace the defective bateries with four regular
NiMH AA cells.

On 10/12/02 16:13, paloma said...
I took my cutter, my soldering station
and my patience. I opened it and exchanged batteries
cells. The most delicate was to pull back stuck
parts without break them.

as i related in the other post.....
On 03/15/03 22:09, star50fiveoh said...
if you know how to do the surgery, replacement
& repair.




read these:

Dead NiMhs? 

NimH 

This message was edited by star50fiveoh on 03/16/03 12:43.
OP | Post 3 made on Sunday March 16, 2003 at 19:25
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Well I picked up some NiMh rechargeables. I plan on doing the "Surgery" this evening. I will be taking pictures of the process so if anyone else wants to try it they'll have a step by step to go by. It'd be great if someone can host the pics when I'm done. I'll be sure to post the results.
Post 4 made on Sunday March 16, 2003 at 21:39
bomberjim
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Are you sure the battery pack is dead? Many times with an initial attempt at charging the charger will only charge (green light on) for about 5 min and then quit. The battery is not fully charged regardless of what the meter might say. Reseating the battery usually fixes this.

Jim L
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OP | Post 5 made on Sunday March 16, 2003 at 22:29
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Well I tried charging the battery and re-seating it several times always with the same result...the battery dying within a few mins.

But it doesn't matter now anyway because I just finished with the "Surgery"! At this point it looks like it was a SUCESS!! My soldering skills are atrocious at best and it still worked! The 1850ma batteries only cost me $11 at Walmart. The whole procedure took about an hour. If this works I saved myself $40-$50!

I will update in a few hours if the new and improved battery pack accepted a full charge.

This message was edited by Mister Man on 03/16/03 22:55.
OP | Post 6 made on Sunday March 16, 2003 at 22:48
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20 Minutes and the charging light it still on!

WOO HOO!
OP | Post 7 made on Sunday March 16, 2003 at 22:49
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BTW I have pictures if anyone wants to see them, post them or host them.
OP | Post 8 made on Monday March 17, 2003 at 08:44
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Well Guys it seems to have worked perfectly! The light on the charger stayed on for about 3 hours then went out. The battery indicator on the Pronto read about half way when done charging but doing the level meter/re-seat trick fixed that.

I must say that I am very pleased about the whole operation. For $11 and about an hours work I saved at least $40! Also if I remember correctly the 1800Ma batteries will actually last longer than the standard 1200Ma ones that come in the Philips battery pack.

I definitely recommend this to anyone with even the most basic soldering skills and the patientce to do it. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask them here.
Post 9 made on Monday March 17, 2003 at 13:42
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boldly going where mister man has never gone before..............


congratulations!


(if you can't find anyone who will host those pix for you, can you crop & size them to about 600x400 - or so - , get them into .jpg format and ZIP 'em into a LESS THAN 1M, emailable package)?
OP | Post 10 made on Monday March 17, 2003 at 21:41
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(if you can't find anyone who will host those pix for you, can you crop & size them to about 600x400 - or so - , get them into .jpg format and ZIP 'em into a LESS THAN 1M, emailable package?)

Done and emailed to the email addy you have listed in your profile.

This message was edited by Mister Man on 03/17/03 21:53.
Post 11 made on Wednesday May 7, 2003 at 11:39
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On 03/16/03 22:49, Mister Man said...
BTW I have pictures if anyone wants to see them,
post them or host them.

My battery pack is about one year old and I ran into the same problem last night.

I would greatly appreciate it if you would email the pictures to me at [email protected]

Thanks.

Larry
Post 12 made on Thursday May 8, 2003 at 03:25
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Hi,
my battery pack is also running looow.

I would REALLY appreciate the pics by e-mail at [email protected].

Maybe it makes sense to put the file into the remote central archive for downloading.
I suppose I'm not the last one interested...

THANKS!!!
Buxe
Buxe
Post 13 made on Friday May 9, 2003 at 14:35
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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On 03/17/03 08:44, Mister Man said...
The battery indicator on the Pronto
read about half way when done charging but doing
the level meter/re-seat trick fixed that.

What is that trick?


Also if I remember correctly the
1800Ma batteries will actually last longer than
the standard 1200Ma ones that come in the Philips
battery pack.

Isn't advancing technology great? If you can do this surgery when needed, you will almost always end up with a better battery pack because the batteries will have been improved in the time it took your old ones to croak. Theo nly thing to watch out for is not to change technologies because the chargings characteristics of different technologies may make them blow up in older chargers.
I first did this with a ghetto blaster that took 8 D cells -- changed them to six lead/acid cells for the same nominal twelve volts, and built a charger for them. Worked great for six years till my kids totally discharged the antique lead/acids...they just can't cope with that!
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 14 made on Tuesday May 13, 2003 at 02:30
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On 03/16/03 22:49, Mister Man said...
BTW I have pictures if anyone wants to see them,
post them or host them.

Pleeeeease send me them to [email protected]!
Thanks!
Buxe
Post 15 made on Tuesday May 13, 2003 at 04:08
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Is it possible to post the information on this site, somehow?

This appears to be something that many of us will need in the future (or soon). Sounds like an excellent FAQ supplament.

I wonder if the Marantz 5200/9200 can be upgraded in the same way.
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