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Buying Pronto or RM-AV2000 in europe
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Topic: | Buying Pronto or RM-AV2000 in europe This thread has 11 replies. Displaying all posts. |
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Post 1 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 02:22 |
Paolo Pasetti Historic Forum Post |
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Hi everybody,
I'm interested in buying one of the above mentioned remotes, I live in Italy, and I can't find them even on the net. Computability.com could send me a Sony but $49 shipping is half of it's price... I wait your suggestions Thanks bye Paolo
You are doing a great job with this site...It's very useful
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OP | Post 2 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 02:34 |
If you can swing the extra cabbage, there's a Philips dealer in Chicago that has Pronto in stock. It's Metronet, details posted below in the 'Question to Jack Schultz' thread. I live in Canada and I ordered one yesterday. I would guess overseas shippage wouldn't be a problem.
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OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 06:40 |
Alex D. Historic Forum Post |
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Hey Andy,
I'm a fellow "canuck" as well. How much for the unit and shipping? Any concerns regarding customs; taxes (gst, duty, etc.) or delivery?
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OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 10:16 |
I called customs as I live in Canada too, you don't pay duty if the product is made in the USA, but I'm told it's made in Belgium, so look at 25% for duty, 8% for illinois state tax, and GST!
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OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 12:26 |
Daniel Tonks Historic Forum Post |
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I can see duty & GST, but should you have to pay State tax? This is not normally charged... unless there's been some special arrangement made.
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OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 12:43 |
JACK SCHULTZ Historic Forum Post |
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I don't know details on duty etc. Sales tax is NOT chraged as it is interstate(country) commerce. As far as country of origina, the box says Belgium, which is where current production occurs, however I'm not sure whether this applies as the product is sold via Philips in America. Hope thsi helps.
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OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 13:23 |
Alex,
The shipping is roughly $30-35.00US for UPS AIR Expedited, which is a 3 day service. It's actually a little cheaper overall than UPS ground, even though the ground is only about $12-15US, they will tack on ~$45.00 of brokerage fees, plus it's a 7 - 10 day kick. With any UPS air service there are no extra brokerage fees.
As far as duty implications, I called Canada Customs, and the latest is, as far as home electronics products go, there is no more duty when shipped from US to Canada, REGARDLESS of country of manufacture. Apparently this is a very recent change to the legislation. Earlier this year, this was only the case for US made merch. You will however pay GST on the declared value of the merch. in $CDN.
That's the story and I'm stick'n to it.
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OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 13:31 |
Daniel Tonks Historic Forum Post |
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That's true about UPS - Internationally, their cheap service becomes the most expensive.
Take a $400 item. UPS 5-7 day Ground might be $15; $23 Canadian. Then it comes to the border. Declared value of $400, or $620 Canadian. UPS takes a 10% of the declared value as brokerage fee - $62. Add that on your other shipping and you're at $85. Air UPS may have only cost $70 Canadian, and you'd have it a lot sooner.
GST, of course would be the same, plus you'd have to pay some sort of standard duty, unless Customs can be lead to believe it's computer equipment rather than audio/visual equipment.
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OP | Post 9 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 14:09 |
Daniel,
I can only go by the latest information provided by Customs and UPS.
No duty, whatsoever, on AV products anymore from US to Canada, no matter the point of manufacture. There is no such thing as 'Standard Duty'. As you indicated, no brokerage fees if you opt for one of the UPS air services. The driver will want GST on the $620.00 upon delivery, and I suppose PST if your subject to it.
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OP | Post 10 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 14:56 |
I think you're wrong about duty Andy, because I was told the same thine except that if the electronic product is made out of the usa and says anything besides made in the usa on the box, you will pay duty. But I hope your right! :)
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OP | Post 11 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 16:08 |
Daniel Tonks Historic Forum Post |
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I think you're both right. :-)
I'll accept no duty on A/V equipment from the States.
I'll also accept duty charged on items made out of the States -- this is pretty much standard practice.
However, the actual charges would most likely apply to items being SHIPPED from overseas. Some guy in the back room of an A/V shop filling out customs documents ain't gonna look for the tiny "Made in Belgium" text on the bottom of the left side, so he'd just fill in USA or even leave it blank. Besides, they're going to put your order in another box.
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OP | Post 12 made on Wednesday November 25, 1998 at 18:25 |
No... you guys are right and I'm a dumbass.
I guess I figured the customs officer I spoke to knew their job. I ended up calling a customs supervisor in Calgary, and he cleared up my confusion as follows:
Most AV electronics are now duty free when shipped from US to Canada, regardless of point of manufacture. However it still comes down to the specific description of the item you are importing. In this case, a remote control, is duty exempt. Other types of items, may average 5-6% duty. And, as you know anything made in US is exempt.
The package must clearly state that it is a remote, and a general description could result in duty being erroneously levied.
I'll shut up now.
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