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Pronto lcd screen differences
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OP | Post 31 made on Monday June 26, 2000 at 13:11
Ryan Carney
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Thanks to everyone that has replied to this thread. I'm sorry to learn that many of you are experiencing the same problem with the difference in the LCD screens. I guess this is turning out to be a fairly major problem. What are the options? Beyond searching the marketplace or E-Bay for an older version of the Pronto, you seem to be out of luck. Your going to be stuck with a less than acceptable LCD screen...but, the remote will still function as it should so maybe you can live with that. If not, you might want to look into the Denon or some other remote. It's too bad that Philips has yet to acknowledge the problem or offer any solutions. The funny part is that until recently, the Pronto has been sort of a "well kept secret." But, in the last two months, I have seen several magazine advertisements for the pronto, and a number of magazine reviews. Philips has begun the push to mainstream this, you figure that within the next year or so, there will be more remotes in the public domain with shitty LCD's than good ones. Any Pronto or RC5000 old enough to have an active light sensor will become a collectors item. I think the Pronto is an amazing remote but I'm dissapointed with this whole LCD thing...Oh well!
OP | Post 32 made on Monday June 26, 2000 at 19:10
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I purchased the Silver pronto and after reading this thread, I also orthe RC5000 and received it today. I have to say that the RC5000 screen is 10times better the the Philips. Ryan thanx for bringing this to my attention. Im sending back the pronto.
OP | Post 33 made on Monday June 26, 2000 at 19:11
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Also one thing I forgot to mention is I also noticed that the RC5000 is not as senstive as the Philips. Thats the only negative I found. I hope it will get better after some use.
OP | Post 34 made on Monday June 26, 2000 at 19:18
Peter Dewildt
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Kevein, I assume you mean sensitive to touch. It is much better to use the back of your fingernail.

And never, be tempted to push hard if does not appear to be responding. That happened to my partner and the screen broke (and it was not the Pronto's fault - turned out the VCR that he was trying to operate was faulty).
OP | Post 35 made on Wednesday June 28, 2000 at 14:18
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Do I interpret all this correctly?
It is the silver, european, version that has a dimmer display?

It is correct that the components are the same for both units. Philips has not switched to a lower quality screen maker, only one that can produce in greater quantity. That is my understanding.

I know that the silver was not intended for use in the US, but directed toward climate, products and frequencies in Europe. Could this be the reason for the side by side differences? (No, I'm not an idiot, just trying to cover all the bases. :)
OP | Post 36 made on Wednesday June 28, 2000 at 14:38
Daniel Tonks
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I'm doubt it's the specific model that matters here... more of a luck-of-the-draw on which screen a particular unit is built with. I would be very surprised if all Prontos are currently using the exact same [original] Samsung screen.
OP | Post 37 made on Wednesday June 28, 2000 at 20:42
Peter Dewildt
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The only difference with the European model (other than color) is that it first shipped with a slightly different default CCF (which had some European specific stuff in it), and the firmware could handle some more IR types/frequencies etc.

All Prontos now ship with the same default CCF and firmware.
OP | Post 38 made on Wednesday June 28, 2000 at 21:58
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So what we are saying is:
It may be possible that a shipment of LCD screen was used for the silver Pronto, that are dimmer. This has not, that we know of, affected the US model.

If we ARE looking at a specific era of production, then Daniel is correct, we need the PL numbers, 8 digit serial numbers where available. I DO know that the developers are asking questions about which untis, specifically are affected. This info will help greatly.

Ryan had:
1. PL 02 0008 01 1067
2. PL 02 0009 01 2123
Scott had:
s/n 19583545
PL 01 0002 00 8043

Anyone else have a way to compare and numbers to add?
All info will be sent to the correct enquiring minds. :) Lets see if we can narrow it down?


OP | Post 39 made on Thursday June 29, 2000 at 00:11
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My silver pronto with the dimmer LCD screen :
PL 01 9950 00 7926
OP | Post 40 made on Thursday June 29, 2000 at 00:40
Daniel Tonks
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I think this is a supply-and-demand thing more than a problem with a batch of screens. Philips couldn't find enough of the screens they wanted, so they found another source. I never thought the original screen was that great, so I can imagine what the "new" one's like...
OP | Post 41 made on Thursday June 29, 2000 at 01:22
Scott S.
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Remember that the first number is my original "blue-green" Pronto (s/n 19583545) with a nice bright display! :-)

The second number is, of course, my new silver Pronto (PL 01 0002 00 8043) with a dim display. :-(

Just to be absolutely clear!
Thanks for your help.


OP | Post 42 made on Thursday June 29, 2000 at 06:44
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If you're looking for the U.S. version you can find them at "The Listening Rooms" Brompton Road London.
OP | Post 43 made on Thursday June 29, 2000 at 07:03
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Sorry if this goes through twice!
I received my Pronto yesterday (28th/June) serial number PL 02 0009 012393 from LetsAutomate.
The display is so bad as to make the unit unusable.
It is going back.
What is it with Philips? I tried a RU880 recently only to find it would not control my Pioneer DCD/LD player.
Anyone any suggestins for a good remote? Coloured text buttons would be useful
OP | Post 44 made on Thursday June 29, 2000 at 10:42
M. A.J.
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Yes, there are differences in the screens! I have seen them as stated in my other posts on this thread. I suspect had you not seen a "good" screen vs a "bad" screen, many if not all, of the people who are bitching would have never known the difference and used a perfectly marvelous remote! Forget the screen and JUST USE THE REMOTE!

Pleased to have a "good" screen, but would have been ok with the "bad" one since the remote is so very versatile and functional in nearly all IR areas...

THX, for listening.
OP | Post 45 made on Friday June 30, 2000 at 03:33
Mike Huggins
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Hi all

Okay, well being a reseller of the Pronto and RC5000 I have the odd few laying around...

I have a US version with active BL sensor, about 18 months - 2 years old, a Euro model with BL sensor WINDOW (call it V1), and a Euro model withOUT the window (call it V2), I have a RC5000 V2 but that was a DOA return and wouldn't fire up :-(

I put all three next to each other, in a dark room, and when the BL was active couldn't tell much difference between the units. The BL was slightly NOT as bright on V1 - this completely contradicts what has been said above.

The V2 and US both had a BL exactly as strong as each other.

In a bright room, the V2's screen when NOT operative (ie: it was off) looks sort of grey, but the other two looked sort of greenish.

I found all types to be perfectly useable, but agree that there are differences.

I spoke with Barry yesterday (two threads above), and he sees the "fuzziness" as others describe. So he has agreed to return the unit, with his CCF still intact, and I will see if I can see what he is talking about. Assuming I can, then I will load his CCF into all the Prontos I have and see what they all look like.


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