OK - I've been searching for a few hours through the forums and found out - that if I want to access the TS2000 IR codes (HEX) I need to open the .ccf with TSS. So I've downloaded and installed TSS and opened up my .ccf file from a TS2000 - but when I double click on the IR CODES - it brings me up the 8000 series internal database code still. HOW do I get it to show me the real HEX code!?!?! Thanks,
Shawn

Basicaly that is the real hex codes for the pronto.

If you use the internal data base you are using the 8000 ir codes. What you want to do is to use the OEM remote and learn the codes. Then open the same window.

Rob

But learning the codes won't give me the clean code - I'll pick up garbage etc... I thought this was the way to do it? Putting the TSS into developer edition and then being able to view the codes somehow??

You can learn from a Pronto to a Marantz remote as the Marantz does not have the user database. That way, you can see the 0000 raw hex format.

Lyndel

Built-in codes as exactly that, built-in. They're not built into the software, but the Pronto itself. The 8000 "codes" are nothing more than a reference or label indicating what built-in IR sequence is used.

If you load a CCF that someone made from learned signals then you'd see 0000, 0100, 900X, etc. format hex. These sequences can be broken down into timing information which describes the IR pulses.

You can also derive protocol and function numbers from them using decoders such as John Fine's DecodeIR.dll (used with third-party programs). With the protocol and function number in hand, you can regenerate absolutely clean (Pronto Hex) codes using John's Makehex program and a corresponding IRP file.

Bruno

Bruno,
Thanks for the info - I spent quite a bit of time playing with the program - my problem comes from a Yamaha receiver (DSP-3090) and a RCA Satellite receiver using the "ALTERNATE (AUX instead of DTV) codes. Both of these are built into the Proto's internal database with descrete codes. No where on the Internet have I been able to find these codes published. I thought I had read (I guess mistakenly) here that you could load up the Marantz software and because the 5000 series didn't have internal codes - they had somehow converted them out of the 2000 and actually put them into a database. I guess I was mistaken.

I'm still at a dead end, as I no longer have my Proto 2000, I now have a Universal Remote TSU-3000 and also have a Control4 Media Center system (I sell both), I'm trying to get this configured for my house (which acts also as my "demo room") but have yet to find a way to get these codes. As I physically no longer have the Pronto - I can't simple just learn it (though I really really hate LEARNING codes - as you just get so much extra garbage with them). So I'm stuck with my old .ccf program from my original Pronto that only gives the 8000 xxxx xxxx xxxx series HEX code, which I've already learned is a reference into the internal Pronto's database. Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciate. Thanks,
Shawn

What is your problem?

You have ir codes from a Pronto tsu-2000. Now you've upgrades to a tsu-3000? The simplest way and best way is to download the Pronto Edit NG from this web site. Go to "File" then to "Open" and open your ccf for your tsu-2000. It should convert the entire ccf to pcf. there might be an extra step envloved


Rob

That's really quite interesting - I wasn't aware of that. That'll solve 1/2 my problem - I'll still need to find the HEX code though for it, and I don't beleive MX-3000 Editor will show you the codes (played with your idea and found how to bring the CCF into it - but can't see the code) - so I'm 1/2 way there. Thanks for that tidbit.
Shawn

Shawn, the DB codes are in the Pronto, there is no way to change them or see them as learnt codes (0000). So unfortunately there is no way of getting them into a MX-3000 without using a Pronto to teach the MX-3000. Philips bought the DB codes from UEI and part of the deal was that extra security (i.e. the codes only exist on the Pronto, so cannot be stolen)