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Arrgh! Why won't commands work under macro???
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Post 16 made on Friday January 24, 2003 at 18:54
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How long does it take between the power on that you have to wait until the record button is pressed? And I am asking this for the oem, not the pronto's buttons.


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Post 17 made on Friday January 24, 2003 at 19:01
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Some theory, when you are dealing with one remote, then a 10% range of operation means that if I am only 9% high then it will work. If I learn this, and then the remote that I use to learn it is 6% high, then both devices are individually in spec, however the signal that I am producing is now 14% high. Now, if the receiver is 4% low then you have a condition where the learned signal will not work with the receiver but will work with the original remote. There are many variations on this scenario. And the best way to resolve it is to plant yourself in front of the device and using the test button in the pronto editor add IR, adjust the base frequency up and then down until it doesn't work. And then set the value to the split difference to the two. This will essentially calibrate the Added IR to the center operation frequency of the receiver, irrespective of the original transmitters frequency.
OP | Post 18 made on Saturday January 25, 2003 at 07:40
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Having now had time to test this, I've found that I can press the OEM remote's record button as soon as I've pressed the power button and when the display comes on, it shows the deck is in the standard Record-Pause mode. So that's about 1 in total (probably less)

I've also found that the Pronto could well not be learning everything the OEM remote as if i press the Play button on the OEM remote, it'll bring the deck out of standby and start playing. If I try and do the same with the learned Play button on the Pronto, it won't do it.
Post 19 made on Saturday January 25, 2003 at 07:43
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Paste the "faulty" code. Sometimes the one-time-part and repeat-part are mixed.
OP | Post 20 made on Saturday January 25, 2003 at 11:05
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Play:
0000 0066 0000 000d 0060 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9

Record:
0000 0066 0000 000d 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03b1

Power/Standby:
0000 0066 0000 000d 0060 0019 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9
Post 21 made on Saturday January 25, 2003 at 16:08
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Your codes are clean. You can try to extend the codes:
Play:
0000 0066 0000 001a 0060 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9 0060 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9

Record:
0000 0066 0000 001a 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03b1 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03b1

Power/Standby:
0000 0066 0000 001a 0060 0019 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9 0060 0019 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9
OP | Post 22 made on Thursday January 30, 2003 at 15:21
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Thanks for the codes - unfortunately they didn't cure the problem...

I might try e-mailing Sony to see if they'll tell me if there's anything special their remote does that the Pronto can't learn (not that i have much hope that they'll help me)
Post 23 made on Thursday January 30, 2003 at 15:58
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There is a difference between a macro and a button with just one action. In a macro, each IR Code is transmitted once. In a single-action button, the IR Code is transmitted as long as you keep the button pushed.

It could be that in the macro, the transmit time is not quite long enough. Try multiple aliases to your Record button. If that does not work, there are other techniques to extend the duration of an IR transmission.
Peter
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OP | Post 24 made on Saturday February 1, 2003 at 12:50
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Well after spending time doing things a little more scientifically this afternoon, i think it could well be the duration of the power button (or at least something to do with the learned code).

At the moment (and it definitely wasn't doing this before, so something has started working somewhere), if i create a macro that does not include the power button in the sequence and start with the deck on rather than ins standby, the macro will start the deck recording.

The thing that seems to be tripping the process up is the power button, so if anyone can tell me how to adjust the time duration of the power button, I'll give that a whirl and see if it works.

thanks

OP | Post 25 made on Sunday February 2, 2003 at 13:03
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Well it goes against the grain, but I can now use a work-around to the power button problem - I simply use the fact that the learned "play" button is now bringing the deck out of standby to run the following sequence:

Play
delay
Stop
delay
Record
delay
Play

which achieves the same end result. It's just annoying that i can't do it properly
Post 26 made on Sunday February 2, 2003 at 17:05
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Which does suggest the duration of the power button is a bit short.
Peter
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OP | Post 27 made on Wednesday February 5, 2003 at 12:30
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Unfortunately Sony UK's support people were useless when asked what the required duration of the standby button signal was that they don't have access to that information.

So if someone from Sony, the company that MAKE the remote can't get access to that info, who can???

Having said that, I'm not sure that the person who responded even knows what the MDS-JB980 is, as they started talking about AV receivers later in the reply...
Post 28 made on Wednesday February 5, 2003 at 13:12
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Have you tried purposely learning a dirty code?

Which model of remote are you using, with what firmware version?
Post 29 made on Wednesday February 5, 2003 at 13:27
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When you call Customer "Support", in most cases, you're talking to a contracted service whose employees basically read from a script.
Post 30 made on Wednesday February 5, 2003 at 16:11
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On 01/25/03 16:08, haav said...
Your codes are clean. You can try to extend the
codes:
Play:
0000 0066 0000 001a 0060 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018
0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018
0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9
0060 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018
0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018
0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9

How do you figure this out? I don't mean to take away from this specific thread, but I'm having a similar problem and would like to know how to extend the code. Specifically:

0000 0067 0000 000d 0060 0019 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0019 0018 0018 0018 03f4

and

0000 0067 0000 000d 0061 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 043a

Thank you!
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