hello again guys, I'm after a bit of advice again. i have purchased a ru950 (ru3000) off ebay and its fantastic but I'm struggling with SNL, how do i use the migration tool? i have loaded my ccf into SNL and changed the output mode to 240x320 but when i click execute the program crashes? any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
cheers
Rich

You need to be using the RC9200 migration mode, not the 240x320 Netremote mode. NetRemote will never work as the NG editor's CCF importer does not support anything larger than 240x270 which is the RC9200 format.

cheers Lyndel, but i think i'm being particulary thick this week! i have been trying to read the instructions but i cannot make sence of it! can someone push me in the right direction to get going?
i have sucsefully converted my ccf file and got it working in the ru950. SNL sems to be working fine (although the fonts seem a bit small now). i am just really confused over the migrating thing?!!!

1. Import the Hooks file in PENG or PPENG to create a PCF. does this mean load my pcf into snl then import the Hooks file? or create a new pcf only containing the Hooks file? if so, why isn't this a pcf file already?

2. Edit this PCF. edit what? do what to it??

3. Remove all devices except the Migration Bridge device. what, all my devices? so all thats left is the Migration Bridge device? i cannot see wht i'm supposed to of acheavied here?
sorry for being so stupid
Rich

Rich,

Email me as I have a word doc and full examples of how I use SNL and create a PCF that I'll gladly forward if your mailbox can accept a 5MB attachment.

The "Migration Bridge" CCF is used as input to SNL to generate a CCF that is fully functional in that it contains all IR code sequences necessary to load up your music. Once you have that resulting CCF, you import the CCF and create a PCF. Then, you merge this resulting PCF into your own PCF. Once this is done, you "connect the dots" using Alt+Shift+Drag to create links between 2 files. Once you see how I did this, hopefully it will all make sense.

thanks for the files Lyndel, i finally got them! i duno how many more times i need to read the word doc before the information starts to sink in! I'm starting to wonder if it'd be easier if i offered someone with knowledge of this process some money over paypal to sort this out for me?? would $10 be a fare offering for someone to undertake the job?
cheers
Rich

I think that $10.00 is only a drop in the bucket. You are looking @ at least 2 hours work. The going rate for ci's is typically around $75.00/hour.

looks like I'll be having many late nights trying to work this out then!! oh, and thanks for the help so far. i hope i see the light soon!

so is a version of SNL going to be availible that'll support PCF files? just wondering if it'll be worth me hanging on and buying that version rather than pull any more of my hair out?

I don't see this happening any time in the immediate future. Currently, my day job, home remodelling, and other activities take pretty much all of my time.

When I first investigated writing SNL for the 7000, there were too many issues that I ran into when thinking about converting for native NG format.

The new program would be written in .NET. .NET does not support the ProntoNEO raster font used on the NG remotes but rather only supports a TrueType font.

Therefore, the whole UI that used to display all items using Pronto Font would simply not work. The only thing that one could possibly get out of a native version that they don't have for the 9200 migration mode would be use of Firm1 and Firm4, color depth > 256 colors, and possible use of full 240x320 screen. With the addition of the Alt+Shift+Drag functionality to add links coupled with the fact that Jumps in an ActionList are executed as part of linking/aliasing (was not supported on TSU 2000/6000), there's not really much more functionality that could be added other than possibly the addition of layouts to support things like LowPro's DVD Lobby.

However, it should be noted that the DVD Lobby layout is complex and difficult to model with a generic algorithm. Yet another reason, along with lack of donations over past 2 years, that I've not progressed.

cheers for that comprehensive reply, just wish i wasn't so thick!

well i'm slowly getting my head round this. but i have a couple of quick questions, first, i seem to have two SNLsonycd1, 2 support ir and 2 migration bridges once ive finished, is this correct? if not, what half of the two files should they be deleted from? and does the extra home need deleting every time the supernudlist is edited?
thanks again
Rich

You should not have 2 Migration Bridges. In your PCF, the last device you should have is a "Migration Bridge". If you have 2 migration bridges, then this means that you most likely put a Migration Bridge device in your input CCF. In the Input CCF, the device should be named Migration Hooks and contain actual IR codes for all jukeboxes, cableboxes, etc... After SNL is executed, this CCF (or PCF after import) should be able to control your equipment standalone to select discs, assuming that the system is powered on.

This Migration Bridge device (that you add to your existing PCF) contains pages to allow you to have a buttons to which you can link to from your other devices that serves exactly one of two purposes.

Purpose #1 - Button serves as a link target and upon completion of migration, action list of this button will contain a link to a corresponding button in the Migration Hooks Device (merged from output CCF that has been imported into NG editor) such that you can Jump to the SNL List.

Purpose #2 - Button contains a Jump to the transport page of the Jukebox Device (or Cable Device) and, upon completion of migration, will be the target of a link. There is a corresponding button in the Migration Hooks Device that will link to this. Note that SNL should have been setup to use the button in the Hooks CCF named PlayerJump as the button executed at the end of a disc selection when you want to follow disc selection with a jump to the transport page.

So, following merge of the 2 PCF configs (your original and the SNL Output CCF that you imported and saved as an PCF file), you will have a Migration Bridge Device, an Extra Home Device (that may safely be deleted), and a Migration Hooks Device (followed by all your devices representing SNL lists).

Once the configs are merged, you have to drag links from buttons in Migration Hooks into Migration Bridge buttons (Purpose #1 above). This allows you to jump from your existing original config to an SNL List. Then, following the first set of drags, you will need to drag links from buttons in Migration Bridge into Migration Hooks buttons (Purpose #2 above). This second set of links allows you to jump to your Transport Page following selection of a disc in SNL.

thanks again Lyndel,
i'm about to have another crack at this. now assuming i get it right this time, what is the correct way of updating the pcf file? as i have updated my remote from an rc940, i still have a lot of editing i want to do in my new pcf. so do i continue to edit and save as usual and when i need to add a new cd to the list, do i just delete the cd list from my pcf and add the new cd to the ccf file then merge the two? is it just the cd list file that needs deleting? i assume that if i don't delete it i will end up with two lists?
sorry for the 101 questions!

The policy I followed was to always make edits to my pre-merge PCF. Then, when I did need changes, either a new CD or a change to current functionality, all I had to do was to rerun the import/merge process. Prior to the Alt-Shift-Drag links functionality and the version 2.0 of the editor, it took about 20 minutes to complete a full merge. With 2.0 and the Alt-Shift-Drag Link capability, you can be done in less than 5 minutes.

Did you ever make any progress on a PCF/CCF converter? I have a need to convert Pronto PCF codes for a new MX-900, and am not looking forward to hours of copying and pasting hex!