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Topic: | Global RF buttons This thread has 19 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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Post 1 made on Monday November 4, 2002 at 17:30 |
kepstein Founding Member |
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How can I make my global button actions work with RF? Can this be done using only the Pronto?
Thanks, Ken
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Post 2 made on Monday November 4, 2002 at 22:05 |
bomberjim Super Member |
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Ken, I assume you mean the hard buttons assigned under System Properties (home). The only way I can think of that should work (haven't tried it) is to make these hard button assignments aliases to buttons in your ccf that are located in a device that is set to RF. In other words - create a new device, set it to RF. Make a panel with buttons and then learn (copy/paste) the codes to these buttons. Then alias your system properties buttons to these codes. Jim L
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Post 3 made on Monday November 4, 2002 at 22:13 |
King of typos Loyal Member |
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Or either put the codes in the system properties, home panel. And then delete every action in each of the devices. So that the pronto will default to the home panel's ir codes.
Correct me if I am wrong Jim. In order to have any device rf, the system properties must be set to rf. Even if neither of the buttons on the homepanel will be used as rf. In other words the buttons on the soft home panel are alaised to devices that use ir. But the hard buttons are, like I said above. Located at home. And therefore sent as rf.
Rob
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Post 4 made on Monday November 4, 2002 at 22:30 |
bomberjim Super Member |
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Rob, As I understand it system properties set to RF just allows either RF OR IR depending on the setting in device properties. Setting system properties to IR only allows IR transmissions (device property settings are ignored). In other words system properties IS NOT the setting for the home page and global hard buttons - it JUST allows either RF/IR (depending on device properties) or IR only (regardless of device properties). I think aliases is the only way to get it to work and only if system properties is RF AND the source codes are in a device set to RF. Jim L
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Post 5 made on Tuesday November 5, 2002 at 01:02 |
King of typos Loyal Member |
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On 11/04/02 22:30.37, bomberjim said...
Rob,
As I understand it system properties set to RF just allows either RF OR IR depending on the setting in device properties. Setting system properties to IR only allows IR transmissions (device property settings are ignored). Which is correct. In other words system properties IS NOT the setting for the home page and global hard buttons - it JUST allows either RF/IR (depending on device properties) or IR only (regardless of device properties). Agree to a extent. Think about it. If a person didn't have PE, or a pc for that matter. What happens when they set the Pro to rf only in the system properties. Anything in the home panel will be sent rf. At least the hard buttons should, if learned in the home panel. So the hard buttons will be sent rf thourgh out the remote. No matter what settings are in each device. I think aliases is the only way to get it to work and only if system properties is RF AND the source codes are in a device set to RF.
It is possible to have the buttons alaised to buttons in a device that is set to rf. But I was thinking my way because it's easier. All he has to do is set the system to rf, learn the codes at home. And delete any actions in all of the devices. Rob
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Post 6 made on Tuesday November 5, 2002 at 01:28 |
bomberjim Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2001 3,894 |
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On 11/05/02 01:02.49, King of typos said...
Think about it. If a person didn't have PE, or a pc for that matter. What happens when they set the Pro to rf only in the system properties. Anything in the home panel will be sent rf. First of all, there is no "rf only" setting. RF in system properties allows either mode of transmission. I still don't think it works like you describe. Without software or a PC you just can't get some things to work. Remember, without a PC, you can't create macros on the device side or even do aliases. It's too late tonight, and tomorrow's pretty busy, but I'll check it out in the next couple of days and see. Hell, I'll even admit it if you're right. ;-) Jim L
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Post 7 made on Tuesday November 5, 2002 at 01:32 |
MrKlaatu Loyal Member |
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Post 8 made on Tuesday November 5, 2002 at 01:39 |
King of typos Loyal Member |
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I didn't mean to say that your wrong or right. I just thought it might be easier.
What I ment by "....set the Pro to rf only in the system properties...." Is set it in the system properties only, not in the devices. So that the remote is set up to send both, where needed. In this case in the home panel's hard buttons.
Let's say a person does not have PE. So they have to set everything on the remote.
If they wanted a global hard button, mute. To be sent RF, they must learn the code at home, set the system properties to rf. Delete the mute buttons in each of the devices so that the remote will default to a global action (alais) to the home hard button. There for they leave each device's properties to IR. So when they hit the mute button, it will be sent RF, no matter where they are on the remote.
Now, if they used the receiver's mute button, which the receiver is set to IR. But the system's properties is set to RF. That is when it will be sent as IR.
And I do agree, it's getting late. So I am hitting the bed too. Not the same bed, for those who have a bad mind. Rob
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Post 9 made on Tuesday November 5, 2002 at 09:56 |
Anthony Ultimate Member |
Joined: Posts: | May 2001 28,879 |
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Rob, I think Jim is right, at least it used to work that way
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Post 10 made on Tuesday November 5, 2002 at 22:52 |
bomberjim Super Member |
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Well I did a test, just for closure. Set system properties to RF Made sure the remote was on the home panel Learned my VCR power code to the mute key Pulled the power plug on the RX-77 base station so no RF would be received When I pressed the mute key - the VCR turned on, the remote was sending IR. What you were saying, Rob, made sense logically. They just didn't design it that way. System properties just doesn't function as "device properties" for the home page. Jim L
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Post 11 made on Tuesday November 5, 2002 at 23:07 |
King of typos Loyal Member |
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I thought it did. Because that was talk about a bug with the rf not working in the home panels. But thank you for clearing it up. I wasn't trying to tell you that you were wrong. Like some people thought. And I wasn't saying that I was right. I was saying it just might of been easier for him to do that. Thinking it was an opition to do.
Now hopefully the vcr didn't turn on because of the "left over" power in the base station.......lol just kidding. Rob
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OP | Post 12 made on Saturday November 9, 2002 at 16:45 |
kepstein Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | April 2002 47 |
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I now got my iMac to work with Tonto (it was a corrupted ccf problem).
Can I get global button actions to be RF with Tonto?
Thanks
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Post 13 made on Saturday November 9, 2002 at 17:10 |
bomberjim Super Member |
Joined: Posts: | September 2001 3,894 |
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Only as discussed . You must alias the hard buttons to codes which live in a device. That device must be set to RF. Note that in Tonto, there are no "Properties" for the home page(s). Jim L
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Post 14 made on Monday May 26, 2003 at 20:08 |
Steve Ferruggia Lurking Member |
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I could use some help please. My old CCF worked fine with the Rx77 blaster (some devices IR and others RF). Now when I upgrade to ET1.3 my RF capability seems to be gone. There has been no change to the equipment or the blaster - only the CCF. Regardless of the setting of the System Properties or the Device Properties, I seem to be emitting only IR, not RF. Any ideas??? Thanks in advance. Steve RC9200/TSS 2.0.4
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Post 15 made on Monday May 26, 2003 at 21:43 |
bomberjim Super Member |
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Don't know what "ET 1.3" is, but anyway... If nothing seems to be going out RF, see whether something SUPPOSED to be RF causes the red light on the extender to flash. If it doesn't, check System Properties to make sure you set to the right mode (RF or IR). Just to make things worse, the European version of 2.0.4 had these setting reversed, so make sure you can set a channel ID in system properties. If you can then RF is enabled. Other than that, the only other possibility is that the codes themselves are NOT in a device set to RF. Jim L
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