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X-10 control with Pronto
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Post 1 made on Friday October 16, 1998 at 02:32
Joe Prokott
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Can the Pronto learn the X-10 IR signals from an X-10 remote such as the X-10 Powerhouse 6 in 1 remote? Can it learn commands such as on, off, dim, bright, all lights on, all lights off, etc....?

Joe
OP | Post 2 made on Friday October 16, 1998 at 16:39
ziad
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Here's how I understand this.
You can't teach it RF.
You need to have the IR command center at home that can xmit X10.
Then all you'd need is an IR X10 remote to teach the pronto what it needs.
That's what I'm going to do.
more about x10 at www.smarthome.com
Ziad
OP | Post 3 made on Saturday October 17, 1998 at 17:48
Stephen Morris
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I had no problem teaching my Sony RM-AV2000 X-10 remote codes. I used my Radio Shack 15-1919T 6 in 1 Remote Control System with IR receiver to teach my new remote. I have access to on, off, dim, bright, all lights on, all lights off, etc. I can even us it to activate X-10 macros via my CM11 interface.

I don't see any reason why this should not work with any learning remote as long as you have the e IR receiver.

Stephen Morris
OP | Post 4 made on Sunday October 18, 1998 at 20:38
Joe Prokott
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Steve (and others),

I too have an X-10 remote, the X-10 Powerhouse 6-in-1 remote (very similar to your Radio Schack remote). I understand that I will need the X-10 IR Command Console to accept X-10 IR commands and convert them to X-10 commands over the powerline.

However, if possible, I would like to be able to send RF commands from a "global" remote (the Pronto?), including X-10 commands. If the Pronto could send RF commands, including the X-10 RF commands that your and mine 6-in-1 remote sends, we could use the existing X-10 RF transceiver(s) that accept these X-10 commands and the remote could be used anywhere in the house! I am familar with the RF pyramid's that one could use throughout the house for tranmitting via RF, but I am trying to avoid using these as well as having separate IR sensors in every room in the house (this can get $$$!).

From this thread, it sounds like the Pronto can not be programmed to send both RF and IR, similar to how our 6-in-1 remote sends both signals(for X-10 only).

Does anyone else know of a remote that could be programmed to send both IR AND RF on a per source (e.g., CD, tuner, receiver, TV, etc...) basis? Perhaps this is not available for some technical reason, but it seems like this functionality would be very useful in the design of a "global" remote such as the Pronto? Thanks,

Joe
OP | Post 5 made on Sunday October 18, 1998 at 22:29
Scott "popcorn"
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"Does anyone else know of a remote that could be programmed to send both IR AND RF on a per source (e.g., CD, tuner, receiver, TV, etc...) basis?"

Yeah, it's called a Crestron, and they start at $3500.
OP | Post 6 made on Monday October 19, 1998 at 10:31
seinfeld
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Crestron's are REALLY hard to fit in your pocket though! (and even tougher to fit in your budget!)
OP | Post 7 made on Monday October 19, 1998 at 16:50
Greg
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The Marantz RC-2000 Mark I & II have an add on device that allows it to send RF signals as well as IR. I have seen it, but have not used it, so I cannot answer any questions about it. I think it costs about $75 (plus the $200 street for the RC 2000). It is bulky. If you are interested, I have a RC-2000 Mark I for sale as soon as the Pronto/RC-5000 hits the streets :)
OP | Post 8 made on Monday October 19, 1998 at 19:16
Joe Prokott
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Does anyone have any experience with the RF add-on for the Mark II? Does it work well or not? I assume it includes some sort of RF transceiver to convert RF back to IR near the source components? I also assume this device would only send IR and RF on a global basis, not on a per source basis, correct?

Joe
OP | Post 9 made on Thursday October 22, 1998 at 16:44
Bob S
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I have the Active Home system with the 6in1 remote that came with the kit and cannot seem to teach my AV2000 any of the number buttone from the remote. The numbers are used to select different X-10 devices and then use the dim/bright, on/off etc command to control the devices. Were you able to do this?

Also, I ordered the X-10 commander IR to RF transmitter to then take the IR commands from the Av2000 and convert them to RF.

Let me know what you did and/or are using to accomplish this.

Thanks

Fellow AV2000 user.
OP | Post 10 made on Thursday October 22, 1998 at 22:23
Joe Prokott
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Bob,

I am still looking at purchasing a learning remote, so I do not know about the problems you mentioned. Do you have the X-10 Command Console that takes X-10 IR commands and then transfers them onto the powerline? I believe you need this if you are to control your X-10 devices with your AV2000 remote using IR?

I am not familar with the X-10 commander IR to RF transmitter. Does this just attach to your AV2000 remote and covert all IR signals to RF? How much is this attachment and does it only convert X-10 IR signals to RF? If this was working correctly, I would think you would not need the X-10 Command Console that converts IR to the powerline that I mentioned above.


OP | Post 11 made on Friday October 23, 1998 at 09:06
Bob S
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The commander module does convert IR to powerline commands for X10. The problem I'm having is teaching the AV2000 remote the 1-9 buttons from my 6 in 1 remote from my X10 home automation kit. I can learn the dim/bright, on/off commands but the 1-9 are not recognized by any learning remote I have. I don't think the 1-9 buttons on the 6 in 1 remote send an IR signal. This is probably the problem.

I need to find an X10 remote that sends out IR signals from the 1-9 buttons. Anyone have any suggestions.

Thanks
OP | Post 12 made on Saturday October 24, 1998 at 00:04
Joe Prokott
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I do not have the X-10 IR command console, so I can't test on my own Denon learning remote, but have you tried pressing the number you want to program and then the button on your X-10 remote to see if this helps? I wonder if this button will then send the necessary X-10 unit # IR code out of the remote? Let me know if this works or not.
OP | Post 13 made on Saturday October 24, 1998 at 00:15
Joe Prokott
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I put "<" and ">" around "Ent" and it got parsed out in the post, so I will rephrase slighty...

...but have you tried pressing the number you want to program and then the "Ent" button on your X-10 remote to see if this helps?....


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