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Problem controling Pioneer RPs ?
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Post 1 made on Friday December 18, 1998 at 18:24
Ron H
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I had planned to order the H/K Take control but after seeing the many satisfied posts on this forum I placed my order for the Pronto today. One reason I looked hard at the H/K was that it had Pioneer RP functions pre-programmed into it. I have yet to find a remote that can learn the IR from my Pioneer Elite Pro119. I have been told it sends a very high signal and in pulses. Has anyone tried to program one of these into the Pronto?
OP | Post 2 made on Friday December 18, 1998 at 20:06
George Mills
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This has been discussed a lot.

Daniel, have you thought about a "Remote FAQ".

My take on it is, that for a few years some "Elite" products used high frequency IR.
The Pronto can not learn that high freq.

But supposedly these same models have alternate low frequency IR codes it will listen to and may be found in a cheap One-For-ALL or similar remote.

Rumor also has it that the Pronto sister remote RC-5000 will be able to do High Freq IR.

All this was taken from "Remote Central" so look back for more details.

OP | Post 3 made on Friday December 18, 1998 at 21:59
Donald Coleman
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A spokesman for Philips software in Palo Alto, California had this to say when I queried him about the Marantz RC-5000 being able to learn the Pioneer Elite high frequency IR:

"That information regarding the RC5000 is absoluelty false. That piece is
an OEM version of Pronto and has the exact same functionality as The Pronto,
just a different color. Philips Digital Entertainment developed the Pronto
exclusivley, and OEM'd it to Marantz."

I have a Pioneer Elite 16x9 projection monitor, and was unable to get Pronto to learn the Elite remote. (The Elite frequency is something above 1 megHz.) However, I got an older remote from my dealer and Pronto was able to read some of the IR controls. I still have been unable to change the "screen modes" with Pronto. So, I use the Elite remote for that function, not exactly a step forward. The Philips spokesman said the next generation of Pronto software should enable Pronto to learn the high frequencies (i.e, above 56kHz).

OP | Post 4 made on Saturday December 19, 1998 at 00:43
Ron H
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I'm disapointed to here this infomation. I'll go to my Elite dealer and try to program one of the new RPs which I understand operate at a lower frequency and see if it will work on mine. I'm suprised that the H/K will work but the seemingly better Pronto will not.
OP | Post 5 made on Saturday December 19, 1998 at 12:03
George Mills
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Given how many problems with "normal" components on teh IRIQ I have my doubts on how well it would handle the Pioneer Elites.

At least it sounds like it's being addressed.
OP | Post 6 made on Monday December 21, 1998 at 00:03
Rajiv
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I just purchased the Pronto and it works well with all of the follwing Pioneer Elite products:

PRO-100 RPTV, DV-09 DVD Player and VSX-07TX Receiver.

These components were all manufactured in the last three months.

I really like the Pronto - its intuitively easy to use.

Good luck,

Rajiv...
OP | Post 7 made on Monday December 21, 1998 at 00:56
jack schultz
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My info tells me that neither Pronto nor IRIQ have the capability to learn the high ferquency codes of the Pioneer Elite "era of nonsense." Pioneer only did this silliness for one year and after taking excessive heat from the custom installation community, reverted "back to reality". If a Philips engineer advised that they may have a fix in the future, then I would suspect this is true. In the meantime, my understanding of the problem is more of a learning capability rather than the ability to produce once learned. The fix may come from the ability to download prelearned files to enable Pronto to create IR output from these files. Further, it is my belief that the disemination of learned files will become more and more commonplace as the population of Prontos increases. This is only my oppinion although it is based on what I know about the internal workings of Pronto and the ProntoEdit software.
OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday December 23, 1998 at 16:07
a helpful person...
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The processor in the Pronto isn't fast enough to capture very high carrier frequencies (455 KHz and 1.125 MHz). When you're trying to keep the price under control and make the batteries last, something has to give :-)

We'd actually like to get our hands on some of the older Pioneer remotes with the 1.125 MHz carrier. If you are willing to donate a Pioneer remote (an older one that Pronto can't learn obviously - all the current Pioneer models work fine), please let me know by email.

We'll do our best to capture the codes, and make them available to ProntEdit users. Though Pronto can't capture those codes, it should be able to reproduce them without problems.


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