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Short walkthrough tutorial desired
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Post 16 made on Friday August 7, 2009 at 10:23
racingsnake
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And check out my latest post. I got well and truly pissed off by being constantly referred to the FAQ by those that knew better but were not able, or willing to help me personally.

However, after 4 days, I now have a CCF I like, robbed from others hard work. The emulator is key to making sure your CCF behaves as you intended, if it does not, do what I did:

Save your files in ProntoEdit regularly, each time you make a big change would be best, and name them by version, v1, v2, v3 etc.....

Every time you change the CCF, use the emulator to see how it behaves before loading it onto the remote. Make the tweaks, then save as the next version.

Gallery is valuable. ProntoEdit is not obvious about how to use iut though. You have to down load a gallery or CCF from the files section to your PC. Then choose Tools, Select Gallery, and select the gallery you downloaded. You have now told ProntoEdit what gallery yo use but it will not appear until you go Tools, Gallery. You can now drag the buttons and designs, BMP's etc directly into your panels created under your devices.

Double click a button to edit its properties, add text assign IR codes and so on.

If you get stuck or frustrated, walk away and do something else, then come back to it. If all else fails, delete all the complex panels and devices you had working once, and go from scratch. You have your earlier versions to work with if you need to regress and refresh.

Good luck, and welcome to the newbie club!
Post 17 made on Friday August 7, 2009 at 11:17
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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That advice about deleting all the panel etc that you had is great advice if you don't follow the general idea of the instructions, which is to make a button and then learn a command ON THAT BUTTON. If you then delete the button, you've lost the command.

I learned that early on and created a dumb-looking device with some twenty blank rectangles. When I need to learn a new device, I name each rectangle in lower case (to distinguish it from a button with graphics), in the order in which they appear on the remote, top to bottom, then learn the commands to those buttons and store them with the device name.

Then when I do the actual remote, I alias each artwork to those buttons. If I decide to change artwork, I can delete entire pages without losing the reference buttons.

Another thing I learned was that when making a large bunch of macros, for instance tuner buttons a1, a2, etc, there might be a need for a delay between the commands. A full set of macros might have a hundred delays, and if I was wrong and needed to change the delay, I had a hundred changes to make.

Instead of assigning delays directly from the editor, I made a master button named delay, assigned it a delay from the editor, then aliased to that button when I made macros. Then if it turned out that the macros needed a longer delay or could tolerate a shorter delay, I only had to change the delay on the one master delay button, and all macro delays would now be different.

racingsnake, you don't mention where your latest post is, and it's not in this thread. Threads are always moving up and down in the list here, and we can't tell which threads have posts by whom, so if you really want us to see it, a link is necessary.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 18 made on Friday August 7, 2009 at 11:36
racingsnake
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On August 7, 2009 at 11:17, Ernie Bornn-Gilman said...

racingsnake, you don't mention where your latest post is, and it's not in this thread. Threads are always moving up and down in the list here, and we can't tell which threads have posts by whom, so if you really want us to see it, a link is necessary.

Link to my updated thread. www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-pronto/thread.cgi



Ernie, thank you for taking the time to write up the dummy device tips for keeping the IR codes, and for the delay tips. This sort of thing only makes sense once you have your basic CCF and want to make it more useful/friendly, and you have to have done the basics before any of this starts to make sense. ProntoEdit has a pretty steep learning curve IMHO, which makes the work done on the files section even more impressive.
Post 19 made on Friday August 7, 2009 at 12:55
Ernie Bornn-Gilman
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I totally agree with your last comment. I was blessed to have already learned the Lexicon remote programming system, which was done by RTI. I then taught myself Crestron SmarTouch, more compilcated than that, and finally learned Pronto/Marantz programming. After those first two, the Pronto learning curve was mostly "what were they thinking?" instead of learning programming concepts. I have since learned URC programming, and again, it's "What were they thinking?"

I supplied information that would help after the basic ccf is done because you're going to want to know about it the very moment that you have mastered the basic part.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 20 made on Friday August 7, 2009 at 17:47
Lyndel McGee
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Sorry if you were pissed off. However, we cannot overcome the learning curve for you.

I can't recall... When you press F1 from the editor for help, is there anything in there about usage of the Gallery?

Glad you are now pronto'ing.
Lyndel McGee
Philips Pronto Addict/Beta Tester
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