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It's here, the new percect remote, the 15-1996!!!!
This thread has 28 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 29.
OP | Post 16 made on Friday September 8, 2000 at 08:49
Rob
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Hey Dan,
It might be worth keeping that 15-1917 around so that you can use it to get new device codes downloaded over the phone. Then you can use it to search for discrete codes which you can then teach to your main remote.

Rob.
OP | Post 17 made on Monday September 11, 2000 at 13:31
Randy
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It's actually not a MODEM... (MOdulator DEModulator) since it only works one-way :-)

Tech nerd correction
OP | Post 18 made on Monday September 11, 2000 at 14:13
Rob
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Gee Randy, thanks for that, what we do without you, eh? :) What would you call a one-way "modem" then? Would it just be a MO (modulator) or a DEM (demodulator)?
OP | Post 19 made on Monday September 11, 2000 at 15:20
Gerard J. Pinzone
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DEModulator... :)
OP | Post 20 made on Wednesday September 13, 2000 at 13:07
Christian Green
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That's a pretty wild remote Rob. Can't wait to the the first "I need codes for my 15-1996" thread.
OP | Post 21 made on Wednesday September 13, 2000 at 13:15
jas_Qfix
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May be David can set up a 1996 forum site before R/S product announcement!! That will be the first.
OP | Post 22 made on Wednesday September 13, 2000 at 13:28
Rob
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Yeah, and we can all try out our imaginary setup's and post questions about the imaginary problems that we had. :)
OP | Post 23 made on Thursday September 14, 2000 at 16:05
jas_Qfix
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Hi Rob,

Minor point. To be complete, should your 1996 manual have a section on transport punch-thru such as VCR's play, rew, fwd. etc?
OP | Post 24 made on Thursday September 14, 2000 at 16:52
Rob
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That's an interesting question, but I'm inclined to say "no" and here's why.

You typically only use one device to actually look at things, ie - the TV, and you typically use one of two devices to listen to things, ie - the TV or the receiver, but you use many different devices to play things, ie - the VCR, DVD, ReplayTV, etc.

So, rather than have the VCR's transport keys punch through to the TV device, wouldn't it be better to have the TV's volume punch though to the VCR device. That way the user will get accustom to using the right device mode for the device being "played".

That all being said, I'm open to arguments either way, so if you're not convinced, let me why.

Rob.
OP | Post 25 made on Thursday September 14, 2000 at 20:31
John Fine
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Which kind of "punch through" do you mean? I've never really understood that aspect of my OFA remotes. I've seen them almost do what I want for that, but not enough to understand or control the pattern.

For VCR basic buttons (in fact for most buttons on the remote). I'd like it to remember the last selected device that included the button. When I switch from VCR1 to cable, I'd like play, rewind etc. to still be VCR1. When I switch from VCR2 to cable, I'd like them to be VCR2. In either case I tend to be in cable mode when I tend to want to press record or pause or stop or OTR etc. Why should I need to switch back to VCRx mode if my Cinema 6 has enough buttons?

For Vol, I want a different behavior. Vol is controlled by the TV. I want TV vol regardless of what device I'm in. I programmed it that way and it worked. Occasionally I have to reprogram that feature because it seems easy to lose parts of it.
OP | Post 26 made on Thursday September 14, 2000 at 22:41
Rob
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I think the volume punch through works differently on different models. On the newer remotes, you can set it so that all the visual devices (TV, VCR, CABLE) will punch through to the device of your choice. On the slightly older remotes (ie, the 15-1994) you can only set it to punch though to the TV. I don't think there is any transport key punch through on the newer remotes, but I think I read that some of the older ones work as you have described, ie, if you press TV and then VCR, the volume will be the TV's, and if you press VCR followed by TV, the transport keys will be the VCR's.

Personally, I just program all the buttons as I need them. I use the 15-1994 as my main remote and I have most of the volumes programmed to work the receiver.

Rob.
OP | Post 27 made on Friday September 15, 2000 at 17:27
John Fine
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Isn't this thread about what a future remote ought to do?

I always run out of key moves when programming a Cinema 6 or 7. You can do the Vol more precisely with key move than with the Vol specific feature; But that is only for fanatics like use, and on existing remotes it uses key moves you can't spare.

Key moves ought to take very little memory. For future remote, why don't they just support enough that I won't run out (in other words, about twice as many as would be enough for anyone else).

You may have missed my point about VCR1 and VCR2. You can't do that with key moves. When you press either VCR button and then press cable, you want the transport buttons of the last VCR. More generally, you want to program (and often default) a button within a device as transparent (stop, record, etc. would be transparent in my cable device). When you press a device button, all its transparent keys would cling to their last meaning.

I might have been misremembering remotes. It might have been the ACCESS 4 that had nearly right behavior mixing two VCRs and a cable, rather than the Cinema 6.
OP | Post 28 made on Monday March 5, 2001 at 16:27
John
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I found your 'perfect remote' very interesting. Can the standby time for the backlighting on a 15-1995 be adjusted? Tried your '1994' approach (hold down the 'setup button etc), no luck. Thanks in advance for any help.
OP | Post 29 made on Tuesday March 6, 2001 at 14:55
Alan
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Here's one that I think you forgot, Rob. There should be a 'remote finder' device that comes with the remote and that would be stored permanently next to the TV. Whenever your children lose the remote (at least several timess a day in our house), you should be able to push a button on the 'remote finder' and that should cause the remote to beep. (I presume you would have to use RF for this feature so that you are not limited by line of sight.)
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