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Advanced Codes Help for OARI06G (URC1130BV0-R?)
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Post 1 made on Monday February 14, 2011 at 01:16
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After breaking their 2nd One for All remote, I'm building another one for my in-laws. I'd previously used URC 8810's with great success. Macros and advanced/discrete codes to simplify things to one push of a button. This time I couldn't find same remote and had to switch to the OARI06G (or is it an URC1130BV0-R?). Getting the devices setup was a breeze but I can't get any advanced codes to work. I would hope this model supports them but I have a feeling I may be missing something due to the way you have to select the device to control. Are there any other owners out there that can help out? I getting really tied of playing tech support and telling the in-laws which remote to use so they can watch Wheel! Thanks in advance.
Post 2 made on Monday February 14, 2011 at 01:49
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I don't own one of these remotes, but I am interested in seeing if keymoves work. According to the manual, a large number of 9XX commands (975, 980, 990, 991, 992, 993, 995 ) are implemented, so it seems likely that 994 is also supported.

One thing I notice is that for 9XX commands that are specific to a device, the sequence is a little different than you would have seen with 8810s.

Here's one possible sequence: Since I don't know what components you're trying to control, I'll assume that you've already setup Audio 1658 on the Audio device, just as an example.
1) Press Setup until 2 blinks
2) Tap Audio <---- this is the unusual step
3) Enter 994 (does it blink twice?)
4) Tap Setup
5) Enter 45518 (could be just about any 5 digit starting with 6 or less)
6) Tap the Blue button (or just about any other button.)

Does the remote blink twice?

Most UEI remotes don't use step 2) and will assign the advanced code to the current device mode. I'm guessing that step 2) is needed for the OARI06G. However, it the remote doesn't blink twice following step 3), try omitting 2) and check if the remote blinks twice after entering 994.
OP | Post 3 made on Monday February 14, 2011 at 21:07
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Here's one possible sequence: Since I don't know what components you're trying to control, I'll assume that you've already setup Audio 1658 on the Audio device, just as an example.
1) Press Setup until 2 blinks
2) Tap Audio <---- this is the unusual step
3) Enter 994 (does it blink twice?) NO

| 4) Tap Setup
5) Enter 45518 (could be just about any 5 digit starting with 6 or less)
6) Tap the Blue button (or just about any other button.)

Does the remote blink twice? NO

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Most UEI remotes don't use step 2) and will assign the advanced code to the current device mode. I'm guessing that step 2) is needed for the OARI06G. However, it the remote doesn't blink twice following step 3), try omitting 2) and check if the remote blinks twice after entering 994.

After ommiting step 2 it does blink twice at step 3 and after 6.

Your "45518" got me wondering though, am I using the correct discrete codes.  For example, I've always used 113/109 for Sony On/Off.  For this remote, are there newer, 5 digit codes?  Thanks for the help.
Post 4 made on Tuesday February 15, 2011 at 00:45
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Yes, UEI remotes designed in the last 5 years or so use 5 digit EFCs. In the example you've given, 00109 or 00113 will work for e.g. older Sony TVs. These only use one device number, and a single byte is sufficient to describe the IR signal. Such signals are described as Sony12 or Sony15, since the IR contains 12 or 15 bits. EFCs run from 00000 to 00255.

However many setup codes, including ones for Sony, use a combination protocol executor. That allows one setup code to control several device numbers. For example, a Sony receiver probably responds to devices 16 (basic stuff), 13 (tuner functions), 144 (sound fields), 16.40 (discrete inputs), etc.
16.40 is an example of a Sony20 signal.

It takes 2 bytes to describe these various signals, and EFCs can run from 00256 to (65535+256).

I intentionally chose 1658, since it is a Sony12/15/20 protocol executor.

If you tell us the components you are trying to control, we may be able to suggest more comprehensive setup codes than you have been using with the 8810.
OP | Post 5 made on Tuesday February 15, 2011 at 10:13
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Just tried out the 5 digit codes with leading zeros and it didn't work. For now, I'm working with a Sony STR-DG820 receiver at my house to get this thing figured out. Eventually I'll set up another Sony receiver, Sony DVD player, Verison (motorola I think) cable box and a JVC TV. I don't have the models with me now but could get them in a few days.

So I tried:

Tap Setup-00113 (while in receiver control mode)
Tap Setup-Audio-00113

Is there another receiver code I should be using? The normal Power and Volume work. I haven't tried any more advance functions yet.

Thanks for the help and patience.
Post 6 made on Tuesday February 15, 2011 at 11:35
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I'll get to this tonight. In the meantime, what setup code are you using? The EFCs may differ depending on which setup code you use.
Post 7 made on Wednesday February 16, 2011 at 00:31
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The STR-DG820 probably uses the same IR signals as the DG910 and 920. By default, those receivers are set up to work with AV2 mode, which means the most functions are on device 48, 176 and 16.8 and 16.40.

There is no setup code that will accept EFCs like 00109 and send the correct device numbers. Older Sony receivers respond to device 16 and 144, and 00109 would work with those using for example Audio 0158.

So for the DG820 use setup code Audio 2172 and the following EFCs:

0/10

48841

1

17097

2

16073

3

16585

4

15561

5

17353

6

16329

7

16841

8

15817

9

49865

vol up

32969

vol down

31945

muting

33737

preset up

33481

preset down

32457

power

32713

Discrete On

41417

Discrete Off

40393

select

50121

resolution

43208

return

63434

menu/home

28104

gui mode

36041

up arrow

62152

down arrow

61128

left arrow

61640

right arrow

60616

options

29898

-/-- Clear

28105

ent/mem

49609

display

52425

night mode

08904

sleep

13001

play

26826

pause

59082

rewind

25802

fast fwd

27594

stop

60106

input mode

25288

2ch/a.direct

20168

a.f.d.

20680

movie

19656

music

52936

dmport

27336

xm

02760

next track

26314

prev track

27338

category -

43466

category +

42442

video 1

08393

video 2

00457

bd

35272

dvd

61385

sat

15560

tv

45257

md/tape

44745

sacd/cd

08137

tuner

07881

phono

08905

multi in

28873

theater

12845

OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday February 16, 2011 at 10:13
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Awesome! Using the new codes listed above the discrete ON/OFF worked! Is there a place I can get all the "new" 5 digit codes it looks like I'll need (JVC TV, Sony DVD, Motorola CB)? I'd gotten them from [Link: hifi-remote.com] previously. Or is there a way you convert them from 3 to 5 digit? Sorry if some of my questions are really elementary. I don't program remotes very often. Thanks for all the help.
Post 9 made on Friday February 18, 2011 at 01:18
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There is a wealth of information at Hifi-remote.com, with about 3500 "upgrade" files.  There is a lot of info here too, but it is typically in Pronto Hex format, or its derivitives, and it takes some expertise to convert these. 

There are software tools which are intended to allow you to customize the behavior of the remote by connecting it to a PC via the JP1 connector inside the battery compartment. One of the tools, called RemoteMaster, will also tell you which EFC to use in manually programming the remote, assuming your component or a similar model is in the Files Section. So you would download and install RM, along with files which describe the internal workings of the remote (RDF filles) and images/maps of the remote. (If you have a JP1 cable, you can use the image of the remote to assign functions to a particular key by drag and drop.) Then you would look in the File Section, Upgrades, and find one or more upgrades which may be similar to your component.  After downloading the upgrade and opening it in RM, the EFCs are shown. If you want to try this, please read the sticky in the Beginners Forum entitled Read this First.

RM is aimed at people with cables, so you'll just be piggybacking.  It does mean that quite a bit of the program has no value in manual programming.

Another source of EFCs is the Lookup Tool.  It mostly shows the EFCs that are built into various UEI remotes.  For manual programming, teh Lookup Tool is very useful in finding a setup code which uses the same protocol executor as the upgrade.  In most cases, it is necessary to find a setup code which shoots the same device numbers, although Sony and JVC can use Combo protocols which tend to be able to shoot any device number.
OP | Post 10 made on Monday February 21, 2011 at 00:46
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I've heard of JP1 but never really wanted to get that into this stuff. I did download RM but the problem I'm having is that I can't find this remote listed. I also tried to look up the EFCs here [Link: hifi-remote.com] but the codes I'm getting look very lacking. I'm sure it's a total operator error but I really need to get this figured out. My father in law is having surgery later this week and will need some power surfing while he's recovering.

So, the name on the remote package is One For All Smart Control OARI06G and under the battery cover it has two numbers, URC1130BV0-R and 6016KI. I'm assuming the later is the serial number. Can anyone tell me an equivalent remote I should be looking for the EFCs under?
Post 11 made on Monday February 21, 2011 at 02:15
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The OARI06G remote isn't listed in RM, because the JP1 community hasn't figured out how to interact with it by computer.

However, you can just use the RCA RCRP05B as a surrogate.
I'm not sure what ou mean by "very lacking". If you tell us what model numbers you're looking for and what functions are missing, we can probably help very quickly.
OP | Post 12 made on Monday February 21, 2011 at 03:17
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I'll get the exact model numbers tomorrow. Really, all the EFCs I'll need are Discrete ON/OFF and the Video inputs.

What I meant by lacking is in the EFC lookup, these are the commands listed when I use remote RCRP05B with setup 2271.


num 0
num 1
num 2
num 3
num 4
num 5
num 6
num 7
num 8
num 9
Volume +
Volume -
Mute
CH+
CH-
Power
Arrow_Down
Arrow_Left
Arrow_Right
Arrow_Up
Guide
Input/Source
Format 16:9
OK/Select
Last/Prev Ch
100+
Sleep
EXIT
Info/Display
Play
Stop
Pause
Rewind
FFWD
CC
Menu
OP | Post 13 made on Monday February 21, 2011 at 13:20
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Just spoke with the in laws and here are their model numbers:

JVC TV HD-52Z585
Motorola Cable Box (Verizon) HDQIP 71001
Sony Receiver STR-DH510
Sony DVD Player DVP-NC600

What I'm looking to do is to make macros that allow them to push one button to turn everything on, set it to the proper input modes and put the remote in the proper control mode.

What I'd need are the input EFCs for the TV and Receiver and the Discrete ON/OFF for everything.

Thanks a ton for the help and patience with me. I really appreciate it.
Post 14 made on Tuesday February 22, 2011 at 00:05
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JVC TV HD-52Z585
Using TV 1774, www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php

tuner

62258

16

3

Ant/Cable

62442

11

3

Video 1

62386

17

3

Video 2

62322

18

3

tv/video

62450

19

3

Video 3

62226

20

3

Discrete on

62338

29

3

Discrete off

62306

26

3


Motorola Cable Box (Verizon) HDQIP 71001
This is probably GI Cable Cable 0476 or 1376.  Could also be XMP, Cbl 1187 or 1982.  I doubt that it has discrete power.  We just leave ours on all the time.  Almost no difference in power draw from the wall.


Sony Receiver STR-DH510
I would try the EFCs in post #7 above.

Sony DVD Player DVP-NC600
Video 0533, www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php

Discrete Power - On

00113

46

Discrete Power - Off

00109

47



None of these are exact matches, but they'll probably work.


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