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KISS DP-600 with URC8210
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Post 1 made on Tuesday October 23, 2007 at 07:57
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Well i hope someone can help me. I just last week got my remote. So the problem is, i have no remote for my KISS DP-600. I got codes from their service. Thats is great, but i don't have setup button, and i cant change any settings for my DVD player. I found these DP600 remote codes - I don't know if that helps anything. But i would be so great full if someone helped me. I have also that wav file, but that isnt much help i guess.

Remote HEX Codes for the DP600:
Address code for all keys 0x1d.
0x0c - POWER_BUTTON
0x01 - ONE_BUTTON
0x02 - TWO_BUTTON
0x03 - THREE_BUTTON
0x04 - FOUR_BUTTON
0x05 - FIVE_BUTTON
0x06 - SIX_BUTTON
0x07 - SEVEN_BUTTON
0x08 - EIGHT_BUTTON
0x09 - NINE_BUTTON
0x00 - ZERO_BUTTON
0x2d - EJECT_BUTTON
0x42 - RECORD_BUTTON
0x43 - ERASE_BUTTON
0x48 - RETURN_BUTTON
0x51 - LEFT_BUTTON
0x56 - UP_BUTTON
0x50 - RIGHT_BUTTON
0x55 - DOWN_BUTTON
0x57 - ENTER_BUTTON
0x32 - SKIP_PREVIOUS_BUTTON
0x35 - STOP_BUTTON
0x34 - SKIP_NEXT_BUTTON
0x21 - MENU_BUTTON
0x36 - LIST_BUTTON
0x20 - SETUP_BUTTON
0x30 - MARK_BUTTON
0x45 - AUDIO_BUTTON
0x41 - TITLE_MENU_BUTTON
0x49 - SUBTITLE_BUTTON
0x44 - INPUT_BUTTON
0x40 - TV_BUTTON
0x46 - HDD_BUTTON
0x4a - ONLINE_BUTTON
0x29 - ZOOM_BUTTON
0x4c - VOLUME_DOWN_BUTTON
0x11 - VOLUME_UP_BUTTON
0x10 - STORE_BUTTON

As much i know, there is no need for buttons 0x10, 0x46, 0x43
Post 2 made on Tuesday October 23, 2007 at 08:55
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On October 23, 2007 at 07:57, drzerg said...
I just last week got
my remote.

I assume you mean an 8210. But you should be more specific to avoid any confusion.

I got codes from their service.

That's real confusing. You got what from who?

but i don't have setup button,

Is that the whole problem? Meaning you have a working setup code in the 8210, which operates most of the functions of your DVD player and you just need the EFC numbers for a few more functions, such as setup? If so, what setup code number is it that works most of the functions?

I found these DP600 remote
codes - I don't know if that helps anything.

Yes, those can be translated easily into EFC numbers once I know what is inside the setup code you are using.

I have also that
wav file, but that isnt much help i guess.

Is that a .wav file you installed into the 8210 to get most of the functions working for your DVD? If so, it would help a lot. You could email that file to me, and I can read the contents and figure out the best way to add any missing functions.

Address code for all keys 0x1d.

I don't have the list of built-in setup codes for the 8210 handy. In other models, address code 0x1d could be handled by any one of the setup codes:
Audio/0765
Audio/1554
DVD/0713
DVD/1994
Any one of those might need significant patching with EFC codes to get full support for your DVD, but if any of those setup codes is built-in on the 8210, it could be used without needing any upgrade.

I don't recall whether an 8210 even can be upgraded by .wav file, but since you mentioned a .wav file, I guess it can. If you have a .wav file that installs one of the above setup codes or some better one, that should be better than trying to find one of those four setup codes built-in.
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday October 23, 2007 at 10:40
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Ok, im sorry for not being specific enough. Well then, will try to write now everything you need to know more correctly.
Yes, the remote is All for one URC 8210. Yes, my there is possibility to add codes to my remote from wav files. And that wav for codes i got from one for all service e-mail. they sent it to me that wav file. And yes i have working most of buttons with code DVD0396, but for now biggest problem is setup button.
Just looked in manual i got in my remote codes DVD/0713, Audio/0765(that was as DVD Yamakawa code) and Audio/1554, but dont have DVD/1994 .

Hope this will help.
Post 4 made on Tuesday October 23, 2007 at 11:23
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I got your email. I'll examine the .wav file later. I'm a bit surprised at the setup code number 0396, because OneForAll doesn't tend to reuse a setup number that they're using in other models for something else within the same group of device types, and 0396 is so used in at least seven models. But I'll know more after I disect that .wav file.
Post 5 made on Wednesday October 24, 2007 at 08:52
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On October 23, 2007 at 07:57, drzerg said...
Remote HEX Codes for the DP600:
Address code for all keys 0x1d.

On October 23, 2007 at 10:40, drzerg said...
i have
working most of buttons with code DVD0396, but for now
biggest problem is setup button.

I think that list of HEX Codes you got for the DP600 must be wrong.

In DVD0396 the address code is 0x16, not 0x1d. Most of the advanced functions are different between DVD0396 and the list you posted (so it isn't just the address code that is wrong).

Your list and DVD0396 are both RC5 protocol. Certain functions (such as power toggle and the digits) are standardized within RC5, so those are the same in your list as in DVD0396. But most other functions are different.

Also, I'm not sure how device types are grouped for the 8210, but you said the first upgrade in the emailed wav file was "Video Accesories 0602" and it doesn't work. But if the JP1 RDF file I'm using for 8210 is correct, the first upgrade in that file is SAT/CBL 0602 and it is nearly the same as DVD0396.

If you had selected it with the right device type, it should have worked, since it is so close to the same as DVD/0396.

Last edited by johnsfine on October 24, 2007 09:01.
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday October 24, 2007 at 12:10
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Well Device types on 8210 are grouped like this - TV, TV2, Audio, Audio 2, CD, DVD, VCR, SAT, Aux1(buttons for VCR), Aux2(buttons for DVD).
Ok, i did use Video Accesories code wrong. I will try it on SAT right now, cos just saw, that in manual too Video Accesories is under SAT. But i dont know it will be good, cos there are no buttons like Eject, but will try it out! :)

P.S. About these HEX codes for DP600. I had no idea if they are right or not, these where only ones that i found on net, just thought, maybe they can help.
Post 7 made on Wednesday October 24, 2007 at 12:41
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Do you know how to use EFC number (AKA advanced codes) on an 8210?

I haven't had time yet to find an 8210 manual online and get those instructions for you.

In case the function number for SETUP from your list is correct, I translated it to EFC. That is 177. I think the 8210 uses five digit EFC numbers so it would be 00177.

On most OneForAll models, you can test an EFC number as follows:
1) Select the right device mode (a device button with either SAT/0602 or DVD/0396 programmed on it).

2) Do a short press of the Programming key (The "Set" or "Magic" or whatever they call it on that model, key; The key for which a long press is used to start programming).

3) Key in all but the last digit of the EFC number. (so 0017 if I'm right that the 8210 uses five digit EFCs).

4) Aim the remote.

5) Press and hold the last digit of the EFC number long enough to see if you get the desired effect on the device.

Once you know whether an EFC number is correct, there is a way to do a "KeyMove" to program that EFC to a key, so it will be a single keypress in the future. Alternately, JP1 software could be used to recreate the .wav file to have that function included.

BTW, which other functions don't work?
OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday October 24, 2007 at 13:04
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Just tested SAT/0602, doesnt work on SAT too.
Well about buttons, maybe thats other reason, but with power button i can turn on player, but when i turn off, it kinda stays in some half turned off stage. But that could be some other reason. Will look now at picture of original KISS remote and write what kind of buttons i dont work also.
So here it is:
Options button (its not same as setup button)
DVD button (To enter DVD menu)
Next two arnt too important because i can enter that menu in other ways.
KISS Online
KISS PC-Link
There are some that im not yet sure that i dont have them.

Ok im gonna try out now that Setup button.

[Link: oneforall-int.com] Here you can find manual of URC8210. ;)
But i couldnt find in it anything about advanced codes or EFC.

Last edited by drzerg on October 24, 2007 13:10.
Post 9 made on Wednesday October 24, 2007 at 13:36
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On October 24, 2007 at 13:04, drzerg said...
But i couldnt find in it anything about advanced codes
or EFC.

The EFC number is the five digit number used in step 5 of the instructions on page 28 of that pdf file.

Those instructions tell you how to program the function of that EFC number (within that setup code) onto a key. In other OFA documentation, that process is called a "KeyMove".

I believe the instructions I gave above for testing an EFC number should also work. You could test it by using the keymove process then test the button, then erase the keymove if it is wrong. But direct testing before doing the keymove is easier if you aren't confident the EFC will be correct.

For many setup codes, including all the setup codes we have discussed in this thread, all EFC numbers can be found in the range 00000 through 00255. If you use any EFC number above 00255 it will just duplicate the behavior of some EFC number up to 00255.

On October 24, 2007 at 13:04, drzerg said...
Just tested SAT/0602, doesnt work on SAT too.

That still makes no sense to me. But I guess you won't have any need for SAT/0602, so it won't matter.

with
power button i can turn on player, but when i turn off,
it kinda stays in some half turned off stage.

I can't think of a reason for that problem either.

Last edited by johnsfine on October 24, 2007 13:50.
OP | Post 10 made on Wednesday October 24, 2007 at 14:00
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OHhh thanks a lot for everything! Setup button is working, and with Magic key function, that i just found my remote has, i can easy assign key kode to any button i choose! :) So i just assigned that 00177 code to one button, and it worked :) Do you have list of all keys for that 0396 code? If no, i can ask just costumer service, codes of all buttons for my KISS DP-600 and than easy assign everything how i like.

One more thanks for helping, im happy now! :D
Post 11 made on Wednesday October 24, 2007 at 14:17
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On October 24, 2007 at 14:00, drzerg said...
Do you have list of all keys for that 0396
code?

I just have a translator, plus the info you put in post 1 of this thread.
Here is the output from that translation:

00080 - 0x2d - EJECT_BUTTON
00101 - 0x42 - RECORD_BUTTON
00133 - 0x43 - ERASE_BUTTON
00164 - 0x48 - RETURN_BUTTON
00199 - 0x51 - LEFT_BUTTON
00231 - 0x56 - UP_BUTTON
00167 - 0x50 - RIGHT_BUTTON
00071 - 0x55 - DOWN_BUTTON
00007 - 0x57 - ENTER_BUTTON
00115 - 0x32 - SKIP_PREVIOUS_BUTTON
00083 - 0x35 - STOP_BUTTON
00051 - 0x34 - SKIP_NEXT_BUTTON
00209 - 0x21 - MENU_BUTTON
00243 - 0x36 - LIST_BUTTON
00177 - 0x20 - SETUP_BUTTON
00179 - 0x30 - MARK_BUTTON
00069 - 0x45 - AUDIO_BUTTON
00197 - 0x41 - TITLE_MENU_BUTTON
00196 - 0x49 - SUBTITLE_BUTTON
00037 - 0x44 - INPUT_BUTTON
00165 - 0x40 - TV_BUTTON
00229 - 0x46 - HDD_BUTTON
00100 - 0x4a - ONLINE_BUTTON
00208 - 0x29 - ZOOM_BUTTON
00036 - 0x4c - VOLUME_DOWN_BUTTON
00207 - 0x11 - VOLUME_UP_BUTTON
00175 - 0x10 - STORE_BUTTON

Next, I pulled the list of EFC numbers that are included in DVD/0396 (Note both lists exclude the standard RC5 values that are always on power and digits). I don't have a good RDF file for the 8210, so I don't know which buttons have which of these EFC numbers. But anyway, the two lists don't overlap as much as you'd expect them to if each of them were mainly correct.


00004
00012
00014
00047
00049
00068
00076
00078
00079
00108
00110
00111
00113
00142
00142
00143
00174
00175
00189
00207
00228
00236
00238

Last edited by johnsfine on October 24, 2007 14:27.
OP | Post 12 made on Friday November 2, 2007 at 08:03
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I just tested out these EFC numbers.
Ill write down what i found out:
00004 = FF >> button
00014 = Skip Next
00068 = FR << button
00076 = VOL+
00078 = Skip Previous
00113 = Back button
00142 = Pause/Play
00143 = VOL-
00228 = Eject
00238 = Stop

Well that all i found out, maybe it helps someone else too! I was searching for STOP button, as i found out that it isnt working, but of course it was last code in the list :D
OP | Post 13 made on Monday November 26, 2007 at 04:56
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Ok, i got from one for all official costumer service all keycodes that KISS DP-600 has.
So here they are:
00364 -/--
00652 0
00717 1
00621 2
00397 3
00557 4
00333 5
00237 6
00525 7
00684 8
00460 9
00273 Angle
00305 Audio
00591 Channel Down
00268 Channel Up
00369 DVD
00228 Eject
00593 KiSS Online
00622 Menu
00303 Menu Down
00687 Menu Left
00367 Menu Right
00492 Menu Up
00463 OK
00558 Options
00398 Pause
00497 PC Link
00398 Play
00398 Play/Pause
00516 Search Forward
00324 Search Reverse
00689 Setup
00526 Skip Forward
00334 Skip Reverse
00432 Standby
00238 Stop
00430 Subtitle
00271 Title Menu
00655 Volume Down
00588 Volume Up
00718 Zoom

I hope this will help someone too. For me it helped so much! :)


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