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Anyone still use the 15-1994?
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Post 1 made on Saturday December 23, 2006 at 20:37
de8212
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I've been using it for a few years on a tv in a spare bedroom and was hoping to move it in to my bedroom but can't get it to work my dvd player.
The dvd player is a "cheapie" cyber home player. Can't find a code for it.
Should I just give up or is there any way of doing this?
Post 2 made on Sunday December 24, 2006 at 02:00
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I have a similar problem with another remote I have been searching for help with for months, includeing posts here. To return the favor my advice is to get an inexpencive UNIVERSAL that can handle multiple devices INCLUDEING DVD PLAYERS/RECORDERS. You may want a RECORDER(DVR) later and this way you will already have a remote for it if you decide to get a USED one which may or may not have a working remote if there is one at all. Secondly DO NOT LOSE THE REMOTES OWNERS MANUAL!!!! Take it from me THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A UNIVERSAL CODE LIST!!! Every remote uses a UNIQUE code list even though multiple brands/models of remotes will operate a specific piece of equipment. MAKE MULTIPLE COPIES OF THE MANUAL. Hide them in different rooms so you will always have access to one. Manuals are hard to get and the vendors charge ridiculous prices for them. They are out of date as soon as they are printed. Just like a computer is already obsolete while still in production! Good luck to you. I wish you well on your trip to insanity.
Post 3 made on Sunday December 24, 2006 at 09:05
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I wouldn't give up on it yet. 15-1994 has a good layout, and I think a lot of people are quite attached to it. It pretty much has all the functions of the current OfA models. But since it is a bit old, it doesn't have as extensive built-in library of device codes as the current models. However, there are several things you can do.

You can try to do a search for the code by going through all the built in codes in the remote. While there is no Cyberhome code listed specifically, there are a couple of similar protocols built in, and one of them might work. The instructions for search is here:
[Link: hifi-remote.com]

If you have the original remote, you can also teach the 15-1994 the ir signal using the original remote. See here:
[Link: hifi-remote.com]

The best solution, though is to get a JP1 cable. Using the cable to connect the remote to your computer, you will be able to upgrade the remote with new codes for new devices, including Cyberhome DVD players. You can learn about this starting here:
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
and you can probably use one of the upgrade files listed under cyberhome here
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
even if it not exactly the model you have.

You might think it doesn't make sense to get a cable for $15 when you can get an equivalent current model for about $20. It might not for some people, but in addition to having the capability to add new devices to the remote, the JP1 cable add a lot more to the remote. Functions can be moved around to different keys much easier on a computer and then uploaded to the remote. Macro programming is easier. All the programming and settings can be backed up on a computer which can be re-uploaded to the remote if the remote loses its memory or has to be reset. If you have a lot of learned commands, you can save a lot of the remotes limited memory set aside for learning commands since you can upgrade the remote with instructions on how to generate the set of IR signals instead of recording the individual IR signals, which requires lot more memory. New functions can be added to the remote with what's called extenders, like nested macros, simulating discrete input commands, assigning different functions to long and short key press, macros that are specific to a device (as opposed to standard macros which are global), and many others. Extenders are a bit more complicated, but it's there if you ever decide to try it.

If you'd rather spend the money on getting a new one, though, there are several device codes listed for Cyberhome for the URC-6820, 8820, 10820 remotes. URC-8910 and URC-9910 doesn't have Cyberhome, but they are upgradeable, and I would think that One for All would be able to upgrade it over the phone if you called them. And if you get a new remote, you can send the 15-1994 my way ;)
Post 4 made on Sunday December 24, 2006 at 09:46
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On December 24, 2006 at 09:05, Kupakai said...
I wouldn't give up on it yet. 15-1994 has a good layout,
and I think a lot of people are quite attached to it.

I agree.

You can try to do a search for the code by going through
all the built in codes in the remote. While there is no
Cyberhome code listed specifically, there are a couple
of similar protocols built in, and one of them might work.

I would bet against that. The code search is a long tedious process and in this case almost certain to fail.

I've seen IR data on the Cyberhome 212, 300, 320, 402, 500, 505 and 512. They all use basically the same IR signals and the 15-1994 doesn't have any setup code for those built-in. I've also seen data on the Cyberhome 1500 and 1600, which use another set of IR signals that the 15-1994 doesn't include. I haven't seen data on any Cyberhome DVD player that doesn't use one of those two sets of IR signals.

If you have the original remote, you can also teach the
15-1994 the ir signal using the original remote. See here:
[Link: hifi-remote.com]

Yes, and learning is not as limited as the original 15-1994 manual might make you believe. But the total learning capacity is probably too small for good support of a DVD player.

The best solution, though is to get a JP1 cable.

Absolutely!

And if you get a
new remote, you can send the 15-1994 my way ;)

I think used 15-1994's still sell for fairly high prices on eBay. For a long time it was the most popular JP1 remote.
OP | Post 5 made on Sunday December 24, 2006 at 10:03
de8212
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Thanks to both of you. I already have a phillips universal remote (don't recall the model #) and it list cyberhome but most functions don't work.

I have thought in the past about the JP1 cable but it all seems so complicated.

I love the look and feel of the 15-1994 and wouldn't think of giving it up (sorry Kupakai). I actually found the dvd playter remote late last night and might try and teach it everything I need. I also have a tivo in that room that I might try and teach it the tivo remote codes as well. Anyone use one wiht a tivo?
Post 6 made on Sunday December 24, 2006 at 11:07
The Robman
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On December 23, 2006 at 20:37, de8212 said...
Anyone still use the 15-1994?

Hell yeah! Been using it everyday since 1999 (or whenever it came out) when I upgraded from my 15-1919.

Before JP1, this remote was limited by it's built in code database, where some of the popular codes of the day were dropped to make room for some Radio Shack specific codes, but that was then, JP1 is now.

Think of JP1 like medicine, it can be as simple as applying a Band-Aid (which you can do yourself), or it can be as complicated as brain surgery (in which case you'd ask an expert to do it).

For 90% or more of the people who use JP1, all they do is download the code they need, upload it into their remote, and go off about their business. We won't hear from them again until the next time they need a code. So, I strongly encourage you to buy a JP1 cable and then load the code for your DVD player and you'll be done. Just because JP1 gives you the ability to really make your remote sing, doesn't mean you have to do it. If all you want is a new code, it's surely cheaper than buying a new remote, especially if you don't like the new remote as much as the 15-1994.
Rob.
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
Post 7 made on Sunday December 24, 2006 at 11:16
Kupakai
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On December 24, 2006 at 10:03, de8212 said...
I love the look and feel of the 15-1994 and wouldn't think
of giving it up (sorry Kupakai).

:) I didn't think you would, lot of people are quite attached to this remote.

On December 24, 2006 at 10:03, de8212 said...
I actually found the
dvd playter remote late last night and might try and teach
it everything I need. I also have a tivo in that room
that I might try and teach it the tivo remote codes as
well. Anyone use one wiht a tivo?

You probably won't be able to fit both tivo and dvd functions by teaching method, or have to severely reduce the functions of both device in the remote. At this point I really would consider the JP1 cable.

On December 24, 2006 at 10:03, de8212 said...
I have thought in the past about the JP1 cable but it
all seems so complicated.

JP1 cable software is really not as complicated as it looks, if like most people, you just download the appropriate upgrade file and upload it to the remote. It's just if you want to do more with it, the functions are there for you to use. There are also plenty of people willing to help at the forum if you have questions.

Try teaching the remote with the functions you need for tivo and the dvd player, and see if you can get satisfactory result in terms of included functions. If not, get the JP1 cable (get the right type ; you need JP1, not JP1.x, and the interface, parallel, serial, or USB, depends on your computer and what ports it has). If you post the model numbers of the devices, if you want, I'll can make the ir file for your remote with the upgrades for all the devices you want to control, and you only have to use the ir.exe program to open the file, connect the remote to the cable, and upload the file to the remote.
Post 8 made on Sunday December 24, 2006 at 12:51
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You can only learn between 25 and 30 (approx) buttons total using the 15-1994, and that's across all 7 device modes, so there's no way you're going to be able to get anything useful learned for BOTH your DVD and Tivo.

If you want to see just how easy JP1 realy is, read this...
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
Rob.
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
Post 9 made on Wednesday January 24, 2007 at 03:08
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In April of '06 I was looking for a remote that was the end-all and cheap and found out about JP1 for the first time. I was lucky and found a 15-1994 on Ebay for $26. That was the easy part. After a month or so of research and self education on the whole JP1 thing I got it configured just right. So far I'm running about 9 devices (some of the 7 function buttons control multiple devices) and have maxed out the memory (learned, moved and utilized codes). I'm very happy with this remote. The feel, backlight and layout are perfect IMO.

Robman, I do have one question for you. Where can I find a link to a pre-made 15-1994 button layout worksheet? I found one (PDF format I believe) when I first started however I can't for the life of me locate it on my HD (or on the web).

If you've seen one of these, this may jog your memory, it has a 3 remote (side by side) layout template per page with these lines above each remote graphic:
NAME:_______________ (of the device)
CODE:_______________ (for the device)
KEY: (the 8 device keys)
1S:_________
2S:_________
etc. etc.

If you recall seeing this or know where the link is, let me know.

Thanks.
YYZ
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Post 10 made on Friday January 26, 2007 at 19:20
The Robman
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Are these the files...
[Link: groups.yahoo.com]
[Link: groups.yahoo.com]
Rob.
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
Post 11 made on Saturday January 27, 2007 at 13:09
yyz
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Thanks Robman, these aren't the exact forms I was looking for but they will work.
YYZ
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Post 12 made on Tuesday March 6, 2012 at 19:09
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Well six years after the last response here I can weigh in and say, YES I sometimes still use my 1994. I keep them in working order out of respect :-) Goes without saying that I program it with JP1.

My current favorite remote is the Rat Shack 15-2117. I haven't found anything I like half as much--no newer model from Sony, no Logitech/harmony, no touch screen...I've used 'em all and still prefer the 2117. Combined with JP1 it remains everything I need.

For VERY intensive machro stuff I still use a Palm IIIxe (LOL) with OmniRemote. 8 meg of memory there to play with. god knows it's not much use as a PDA anymore but it's got it's built in IR and is still programmable as a great machro capable remote--one that probably no actual remote of any kind can really out do.

Back OT:
I programmed one of my 1994's to take the place of my Sony Camcorder remote. There are Sony codes that Sony's own remote doesn't use, functionality that the camcorder can respond to--The 1994 has a much nicer layout and can be programmed to include every command.
Post 13 made on Wednesday August 1, 2012 at 21:04
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They were the pinnacle of hard button remotes.

After being in storage my 1994 is coated with a sticky film, like the no-slip grip has dissolved.

My 2116(?) was my main remote until the backlight started going out....which would drain the batteries very fast.

I wish I could find a NOS 2116.......wasn't the 2117 an RF version of the 2116??
Post 14 made on Saturday August 4, 2012 at 19:13
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Ah yes. Certain early versions of that grippy paint had a problem with... dissolving. Many URC remotes had that problem too, particularly the MX-700.


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