I purchased a OFA 8811 remote to control three devices:
AKAI PDP4273M HDTV
Scientic Atlanta Explorer 3200
Panasonic SA-HT900 Home Theater Sound System

I started with the HDTV. The Akai TV set-up code identified by OFA does not work (0030). I tried all of the Samsung TV codes and they do not work. I attempted to teach the 8811 the on/off code of the AKAI remote (no model number) that came with the HDTV. It would not learn the code.

I moved onto the Scientific Atlanta Explorer 3200. It's code of 0477 worked first time. Haven't tried the Panasonic yet.

Couple of questions: Does anyone know what the correct set-up code is for the AKAI PDP4273M HDTV? The 8811 can't learn it and neither can the remote that came with the Scientific Altanta Explorer 3200 (both of these remotes made by UEI?).
Second question: When programming the set-up code for the Panasonic SA-HT900, I am confused as to what button should be applied to control it. This is a HTIB that has one remote and one box that includes a radio receiver, DVD/CD player, TV sound inputs and others. Should i allocate each of these functions to the each of the DVD, CD, REC buttons on the remote? Any help appreciated.

Dougd

I guess Akai "PDP" models are rebrandings of a wide variety of other devices.

0030 is an NEC code set rebranded by a lot of others.

The Akai PDP4294 uses the basic Samsung code set (similar to setup code 0060).

The Akai PDP4225M uses an entirely different code set, not any Samsung code nor any setup code built-in on the 8811 (you could install an upgrade by JP1 cable).


But all of those are ordinary IR signals, that an 8811 would have no problem learning.

Have you used learning on the 8811 from any other remotes? Are you sure you understand how to use learning?

First off, I assume that the PDP4273M is a TV set as opposed to an HDTV set top box, is that correct?

I have quite a bit of info on Akai TVs, and none of the codes are present in the URC-8811. However, there is a VCR code that uses a similar signal to the one used by the PDP4294 and a few other Akai sets. If your TV just happens to use the same codeset, we can give you some advanced codes that will get it working.

In order to verify whether this is the case, program setup code 0042 to the VCR device button, then try some of the buttons to see if there's any reaction from your TV.

Here's a few examples of URC-8811 buttons that might do something...

URC-8811 --> Akai response

rewind = display
ch- = exit
0 = vol+
1 = vol-
TV/VCR = pip

As for the learning process not working, I echo John's question as to whether you know how to make the URC-8811 learn from another remote, as the instructions printed in the manual can often be misleading.

The correct learning procedure is spelled out here...
[Link: hifi-remote.com]

What am I missing here ??

From the JP1 file area:
Akai CFT 3090 NEC1:4.16 [Link: hifi-remote.com]

Akai CT-2107 NECx1:11.11 [Link: hifi-remote.com]

Akai PDP4225M NEC1:64.189 [Link: hifi-remote.com]

Akai PT46DL10 NEC1:223 [Link: hifi-remote.com]

Akai 4x99 and Samsung Rear Projection NECx2:7.7 [Link: hifi-remote.com]

Akai TV NEC1:32 [Link: hifi-remote.com]

And especially
Akai PDP4294 NECx2:7.7 [Link: hifi-remote.com]

How do you get from there to VCR/0042 (NEC1:96) ??

I did a project once for Akai where they sent me a ton of TV remotes to capture. The remotes for the PDP4294LV1, PDP4206EM, LCT2662 and LCT2716 models all use NEC1 96.

I've just emailed you a spreadsheet that lists them all.

I emailed Akai about it and they said that this set uses the same signals as upgrade #9 in that spreadsheet (for the PDP4225) but they also included a table of OBCs in the reply that don't match that upgrade. The OBCs match upgrade #0 (for the PDP5016).

Upgrade #9 uses NEC1 64.189 and upgrade #0 uses NEC1 32.221, so regardless of which one is correct, there isn't a matching code in the URC-8811, so the only way to get the URC-8811 working with this TV is to either use learning or JP1.

Thanks for the feedback. Here is some additional information. I contacted OFA and asked them about what set-up code to use for the AKAI PDP4273M HDTV set (it is a TV set) and whether or not the code was in the 8811. He said the set-up codes would be 0812 or 1207, but that the 8811 is not programmed with these codes. I would have to send the remote back to them to get it upgraded or exchange the 8811 for a 8910 which is upgradeable via modem.

I followed the directions in the OFA manual for learning codes as best as I could. I will review the links above to see if I can get those to work as well.

I am puzzled by one thing here. How does "learning" the code differ from entering the code through the normal entry process? I assume by only entering the set-up code would normally program the remainder of the advanced codes associated with each (or some) of the remote's buttons. It won't in this case, because nothing is programmed in (set-up or advanced). Learning, on the other hand, teaches the new remote one of the advanced codes associated with the button being programmed. Am I correct in these assumptions?

If I am, I will either have to exchange the 8811 for a 8910 (and update the latter), send the 8811 back for programming, or dive into JP1 programming and do all the advanced codes myself. Where would I get all of the advanced codes I would need - by "learning" each one of them, or is there a source you are aware of that has these advanced settings? I have also sent an e-mail to AKAI asking them to identify the model number of their remote for the PDP4273M, and any of the codes. Don't know what I'll get back from them.

Thanks again for the help


Doug D

I went to one of the referenced sites above on how to teach the 8811 codes from other remotes. The instructions on one of the sites was slightly different than that in the 8811 instruction manual. Using this forum's procedure ended up with a successful "teach and learn" session. I can now turn the PDP4273M on and off through the 8811 remote control through the "TV -L1" button sequence. If I recover the code by counting the blinks, can I program this code into the 8811 onto the "TV-Power" button sequence or do I have get into JP1 programming?

Doug D

You can learn directly to most buttons, including the power button. Documentation that implies (or says) you can only learn to the learning buttons is misleading (or wrong).

The blink back method only gives you the setup code programmed to a device key. It tells you nothing about learned signals.

To find out what a learned signal is, you need a JP1 cable.

Learning records the sequence of pulses in an IR signal and then does a moderate amount of data compression so the information can be stored in less space, but still a lot more space than required by other ways of representing an IR signal. Using a learned signal transmits the recorded sequence.

When using a setup code alone or with EFC numbers, the remote starts with a very concise version of the information to be encoded in the IR signal and it has the encoding rules, so it generates the sequence of pulses from that information and rules each time a key is pressed.


Rob renamed the file with all those Akai code sets, so it is now easier to find. As Rob said above, Akai give him info indicating it is number 9 in that set, and gave him contradictory (and more believable) data that implies it is set 0. With JP1 it would be easy to load either code set into your 8811 as a new setup code and see whether it is the right one.


That also works. Assuming there are too many to fit in the 8811's learning memory, or you have other reasons for not keeping/using them as learned signals, JP1 can decode the learned signals and give you the info to reprogram them as part of an upgrade (which we're pretty sure would match one of those two Rob already provided).

Thanks for the additional feedback. No info yet from AKAI. I did manage to teach the 8811 to turn on the TV and allocate it to the "TV - Power" button sequence as opposed to one of the dedicated learning keys, just as johnsfine said it could do.

Strangely enough the set-up code of 0030 for the TV identified by OFA also permits control of my panasonic VCR (play, rewind, etc) when it is in the TV mode, which is kind of strange.

Doug D

Thats normal for the 8811, it punchs through the vcr tranport commands to all video devices, if they don't have transport commands of their own.

I am in direct contact with Akai, what questions do you have for them?

There is no model identification on the remote provided with the PDP4273m HDTV. I was trying to find out what the remote model number was to see if it matched any of the remotes I found on this web site. Itr is a very basic remote and somewhat disappointing, given how much the HDTV cost.

OFA also responded by e-mail indicating there were 4 possible set-up codes that could work with this HDTV: codes 0060, 0702, 0812, and 1207. Customer support only identified the last two, and as I said before, he indicated they were not programmed into the 8811.

Thanks for the support.

Dougd

If you want to try making a visual match, you could see if it looks like any of the remotes here, but remember, just because remotes look the same doesn't mean that they will send the same signals...

[Link: hifi-remote.com]

Regardless, this is mostly academic because we have narrowed it down to to codes that will probably work this set, with one being more likely than the other. So if you were to get a JP1 cable, you could load them and try them yourself. With a JP1 cable, you would also have the ability to cature the signals yourself, so even if none of the existing Akai upgrades work your set, you could create a new one.

If you don't want to buy a JP1 cable, you could send me your URC_8811 and I'll load the codes into it, just cover the round trip postage.

It's remote #9 in configuration. Button labelling is different, as well as the colour, but the button layout is identical.

I will get a hold of a JP1 cable and try the self-programming route. Thank you for the offer to update the 8811. I will give it a try on my own.

Thanks again for your support. Greatly appreciated. You have all helped out a great deal.


Dougd