okay, i've been round and round with OneForAll. i have tried device codes 0010, 0158, 0159, 1058, 1158, 1258, 1558, 1658, 1758, 1759, and 1858, to try to get complete control of my STR-DE935 receiver. and, of course, i can't simply Learn any functionality, because my whole reason for buying the 9960 was that my RM-LJ302 that came with the receiver is currently in the Remote Morgue, waiting for the next of kin to decide on just how to dispose of the body.

i have of course found the basic functionality: volume, mute, switch inputs. several of those device codes i listed have given me the ability to step through the set of soundfields (but only in one direction), the ability to switch between 2-channel mode and surround mode, and the ability to access the Surround, Level and EQ menus.

here's what i'm *unable* to do, and i'm hoping like hell that someone here can help me figure out:
- can't find an on/off for Bass Boost
- can't find an on/off for the Equalizer
- can't find a way to get into AFD mode
- can't figure out how to step backward thru the soundfields list
- can't access the Setup menu (selects speaker sizes, distance to speakers, that sort of thing)
- (here's the *really* frustrating one) cannot make any adjustments on the Surround, Level, and EQ menus, and cannot step through the menus.

in other words, when i get to the Level menu, i can *see* the Front Balance control, but i can neither modify the balance, nor can i step forward in the menu to the Rear Balance control, nor backward to the Dynamic Range Compression setting. i have been unable to assign any menu up/down/left/right codes to any keys (get one blink instead of two). that's a real tease!

off the top of my head, i can't say at the moment which of those device codes allow access to the menus or soundfields, but i certainly can run through the devices again, and find out, if anyone's interested. unfortunately, i cannot say what EFCs are being used to access those functions, because i didn't assign those codes; they were already assigned to buttons on the devices that they work from.

please, oh wise and powerful denizens of remote central, please help me to find the functionality i am lacking. in return, i will be able to provide extremely detailed lists of OneForAll's EFCs for all those device codes i listed (with the proviso that the support folks at OFA tell me that it's okay with them if i do so).

TIA

To use the EFC's you need to use code 0158 or 0159, none of the other sony codes accept advanced codes. Your model of 9960, only take 5 digit EFC's, so you would need to add two zeroes to the FRONT of each 3 digit code you got from OFA.

i don't mean to be contrary, especially when i'm asking for help, but, actually, according to what OFA is telling me, your statement is not entirely correct. as i said, i've gotten huge lists of EFCs for all the other device codes, directly from OFA. some of them are not accepted by the 9960, but some of them certainly are. many of those that are accepted don't appear to do anything, but some of them defintely do.

i need to verify with OFA's tech support whether it's okay with them to do so, and if it is, i will be either posting or uploading approximately 80 or 90 kb worth of EFCs for each of the codes i named in my original post.

in addition, i just got an email this morning from them regarding device codes 0220, 0465, 0689, 0815, 1126, and 1796, which apparently are also Sony amp codes... with another slew of EFCs for each of those.

now, perhaps you are correct that my particular model of sony receiver won't respond to some of these device codes and EFCs, perhaps because by now it's almost "ancient", but OFA certainly seems to believe that they apply to at least *some* sony amps/receivers...

The reason that UEI switched to the 5-digit format was specifically so that 2-byte combo codes like all those Sony codes, would support EFCs. They also made it backward compatible with the old EFC lists (by letting you just add 2 zeroes in front).

If you were to look at the EFC lists that Emrys was given by UEI you would see that the first 2 digits are not zeroes.

The following setup codes use old style EFCs:
0010 - Sony 18, 24
0158 - Sony 16, 13
0159 - Sony 12, 13
0220 - Sony 19
0689 - Sony 255, 0
0815 - Sony Egg 12, 16

The following setup codes use new style EFCs:
1058 - Sony Combo
1158 - Sony Combo
1258 - Sony Combo 26.57
1558 - Sony Combo 26.57, 26.73
1658 - Sony Combo 26.73, 16.16
1758 - Sony Combo 26.73, 26.98
1759 - Sony Combo
1858 - Sony Combo 26.73, 16.16

I won't believe it 'til I see for myself. Previously released Two-byte setup code that will accept 5 digit advanced codes via the remote. Up till now, I haven't heard of it happening before. : )

Which EFC5 remotes do you have and which combo setup codes are you using to work your devices? With that info, I will calculate some EFC5 codes for you to test.

I have the 6690, 6820, 8820, and 10820 remotes, how about for pioneer AUD 1023? Actually that's the only component I own, that has two-byte setup code.

I'm gonna be away from the PC now for a few days, so I'll figure some codes out for you next week.

so i guess i what i'm hearing here is that nobody knows how to get menu manipulation on a de935 working with a 9960, huh?

You're the one with ALL those advanced codes, that you think are trade secrets. Tell me, were the advanced codes they sent you 5 or 3 digit?

what's with the 'tude, edmund? i just don't know if i can legally post all that info. they emailed it to me... that doesn't mean i now own it. look, all i'm trying to do is figure out how to control my receiver. i'm sorry that that seems to irritate you, for whatever reason.

the codes for all the devices 1058 and higher are all 5-digit codes. the codes under 1000 were all 3 digit codes that i padded with zeros to get the 9960 to accept.

for example: 1558/28108 puts me into the last menu i was in (eq, surround, or level). repeatedly entering that code moves from menu to menu. i've not found a way to step thru the items in each of those menus, nor how to modify the settings.

i have also found 1058/10893, which cycles me through front, rear, and center bass eq settings. like above however, i've not found a way to get from front bass to front bass xover, or mid bass level, etc. i've also not found a way to actually *modify* the bass level. i thought i had, but i couldn't repeat it.

Emrys,

Do you find that you need to adjust speaker distance, speaker levels, speaker size, equalizer settings, crossovers, etc. so frequently that you need to control this remotely? You can set these directly from the face of your receiver, correct?

no, you're certainly correct, i don't often change many of those settings (and the speaker distances/sizes stuff is on the setup menu that i can't access at all, anyway)... but there are some that i do occasionally modify (like effect level) depending on the movie i'm watching or whatever.

no, it's almost 100% a case of "dammit, because i *wanna*!" it's become a mystery to be solved... it's my own personal Myst puzzle. ;)

there *are* some things in the menus that i do occasionally want to be able to tweak, in those three menus, but you're probably right, i could survive with getting off my fat ass and adjusting them by hand.

i just don't think i should *have* to... 8)

besides, if it *really* starts to get on my nerves, there's always [Link: cgi.ebay.com]

The following page helped me in the past, when trying to program some codes for my Sony CD player that I couldn't find in any of the advanced codes listings:

[Link: hifi-remote.com]

It worked for my URC-8910. Maybe it'll be of some help to you.

yeah, i know about that site... i've been all over it. i'm simply unable to find codes to control bass boost, EQ, and to move thru or adjust menu settings. and, as i said at the beginning of this thread, i've got a ton of advanced codes that aren't even listed on that page. tomorrow, when they're open again after the holiday weekend, i will contact OFA's support people, and ask them if i can post the listings they've sent me.

the codes haven't helped me much with trying to emulate the rm-lj302 for my str-de935, but they might be able to help other people with other sony gear...

thanks, floyd.

(you're not pink, are you? ;)