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OFA 8910 and STR-SE501 all-in-one home theater-can device keys be reassigned?
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Post 1 made on Tuesday March 15, 2005 at 09:47
fiveliter8
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Hey all,

I just bought the 8910 and was wondering if there was a way to turn the device select keys (TV VCR SAT etc) into keys for the Sony home theater amp/receiver. The sony remote commander was working great up until I got my SIR-T351 HD receiver and couldn't find a code for it. I'm guessing I'd have to do a macro or something to that effect. The thing is, I haven't found a code for my receiver that switches the different inputs. All I can control is power and volume. TIA,

Alex
Post 2 made on Tuesday March 15, 2005 at 11:04
ofafan
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In your 8910, have you found a code that works for the receiver? For the HD Receiver? What model is your Sony amp?
OP | Post 3 made on Tuesday March 15, 2005 at 12:43
fiveliter8
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On 03/15/05 11:04 ET, ofafan said...
In your 8910, have you found a code that works
for the receiver? For the HD Receiver? What
model is your Sony amp?

I found a code, but all I can do is power on/off and volume. The HD receiver is a Samsung SIR-T351 and the Amp is STR-SE501 which switches all my audio and video inputs. The original remote for my hometheater system is a Sony remote commander pp404.
Post 4 made on Tuesday March 15, 2005 at 13:00
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I read your first post a few times. I would probably know the answer if I had any clue what your question was. But ...

On 03/15/05 09:47 ET, fiveliter8 said...
wondering if there
was a way to turn the device select keys (TV VCR
SAT etc) into keys for the Sony home theater
amp/receiver.

I don't know what you mean.
Without using JP1 software (via JP1 cable or .wav file), I don't think you can define the device select keys to be anything other than device select keys.
Maybe you just mean make them select device modes that are parts of the home theater. If so, you might still need JP1 cable or .wav upgrade to get the right setup codes.

I'm guessing I'd have to
do a macro or something to that effect.

I can't tell where that fits with the rest of what you're trying to ask. A macro to do what and programmed onto what key?

The thing
is, I haven't found a code for my receiver that
switches the different inputs.

The use of the word "code" is usually confusing in such posts. You haven't found the "setup code" (device type and 4 digit number) you need, or you haven't found the right EFC (advanced code, which is a three digit number) for the function for discrete input select usable in a macro.

On 03/15/05 12:43 ET, fiveliter8 said...
I found a code, but all I can do is power on/off
and volume.

So you found a setup code that partially works your device. In that case you should tell us which setup code that was. We have information about most setup codes and most IR signals, so knowing WHICH setup code works for power and volume but fails for other functions would tell us quite a lot about what is needed to fully support your device. Just knowing that there is some such setup code tells us next to nothing.
Post 5 made on Tuesday March 15, 2005 at 13:04
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He wants the device keys to give off the signals of the inputs from his audio receiver. Which can't be done without jp1.
Post 6 made on Tuesday March 15, 2005 at 13:17
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Lots of beginners seem to be confused by the topic of device selection by the original remote of combo devices.

Typically a device select key on the original remote does two seperate operations:

1) It send a signal to the actual device to tell it to change modes.

2) It changes mode within the remote itself, which affects what the remote will send for other keys.

Without JP1, a device key in an OFA remote just does operation (2).
If you want one key to do both operations, you need a macro, and without JP1 you can't assign that macro to a device key.

In other RC forums people complain about trouble using learning to duplicate such keys. It should be obvious that (1) is a signal actually sent by the original remote which can be learned by a learning remote, but (2) is something internal to the remote. It isn't sent so it can't be learned (I'm amazed at the trouble people have understanding that point).

For a specific select key of a specific combo device, you want to start by understanding what the original does. While most do (1) and (2), some only do (1) and some only do (2).

If you think about all the effects of pressing the key normally, you should be able to work out a test based on pressing the key while covering the IR emitter (so the device doesn't get any signal) that will tell you which subsequent effects are due to a mode change in the remote vs. which are due to a mode change in the device.
Post 7 made on Tuesday March 15, 2005 at 18:21
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On 03/15/05 12:43 ET, fiveliter8 said...
I found a code, but all I can do is power on/off
and volume. The HD receiver is a Samsung SIR-T351
and the Amp is STR-SE501 which switches all my
audio and video inputs. The original remote for
my hometheater system is a Sony remote commander
pp404.

Look at my post # 14 in this thread, [Link: remotecentral.com]. I used one of the Sony receivers codes listed in my remote's manual. I can figure out which is you must know. I then used the advanced code as explained in that same thread to add "DVD/LD" to the input selection using the numeric keypad. The Hi-Fi Remote site has many, many advanced codes available for the different possible inputs.
OP | Post 8 made on Tuesday March 15, 2005 at 23:17
fiveliter8
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Ok, looks like I'll need the JP1 setup from what I gather from all the replies. Edmund is correct. To put it simply, I'm wanting the remote to function primarily as the Home Theater Receiver controller, since ALL of my devices are switched through it (basically, replacing the sony remote). For instance, say I'm listening to the radio and decide I want to watch TV. If I hit "TV" on the remote, it will switch the Home Theater Receiver to "TV" input, but will perform channel up/down functions on my HDTV receiver. I need all of the device buttons on the 8910 (TV, VCR, SAT, DVD, CD, RCVR, and AUX) to switch the corresponding input on the Home Theater Receiver, AND be able to also perform commands on that particular device. I called OFA support and they downloaded code 0158 which allowed the inputs for the Home THeater to be switched but using the number keypad, and only half work. Also downloaded code 1490 for the HD rcvr which works pretty well. I aplogize for not being clear on my question. I really wish I could just find a Samsung HDTV receiver code for my sony remote and be done.
Post 9 made on Wednesday March 16, 2005 at 09:10
ofafan
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fiveliter8,
If you want the function of macros on device keys, you will need to have jp1. If you want those functions without having to install an extender, you will need a Radio Shack 15-2116 remote.
Jim


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