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H/K Receiver / DVD Codes Unknown
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Post 1 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 15:28
stumacdo
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Hi,

New to this forum and to the RS 8-in-1 remote as well. I've managed to program it for all my AV components, but I'm having a devil of a time trying to get any codes for my Harman/Kardon Receiver and DVD Player to work. In fact, the code specified in the Radio Shack Manual for the receiver (0892) isn't even recognized.

I have the H/K AVR130 as my Receiver and the H/K DVD 22 as my DVD Player.

Any codes I could try to get my RS 15-2116 8-in-1 to work would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance !!!
Post 2 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 17:59
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Do you try code 0892 under RCVR, because its a AMP code,and needs to be entered as an AMP code.
OP | Post 3 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 19:08
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Hi Edmund,

Thanks for the quick reply. I did indeed try the 0892 code, but I keep getting a 'Invalid' message. I'm trying to program it as the 'AUDIO' code, but it's not recognizing it as valid. You mentioned that because it's an AMP code, it should be entered under RCVR ? Pardon the newbie ignorance, but is that different than the 'AUDIO' button ? The process I'm currently using to program is 'P' (to program), go into 'CODE SET', hit the 'AUDIO' button to indicate that I want to program the receiver, and then I tried typing in the '0892' code. That's when I get the 'INVALID' error message. I'm quite baffled because in the manual it's clear as day that 0892 is the HK remote code. Any further advice would be greatly appreciated. Maybe I'm doing something dumb using the AUDIO button ?? Is there something I should do special as an AMP Code ? Thanks again for your assistance.
Post 4 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 19:18
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On 03/05/05 19:08 ET, stumacdo said...
The process I'm currently using to program is
'P' (to program), go into 'CODE SET', hit the
'AUDIO' button to indicate that I want to program
the receiver, and then I tried typing in the '0892'
code.

I believe there is something you need to do to indicate that the setup code is AMP type, and that is done after you press the AUDIO button and before you key in 0892.

But I never used a 15-2116 and I don't remember (from other threads in this forum) exactly what you do at that point to select AMP.
Post 5 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 19:23
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To program code 0892:

1. press and hold P
2. press SELECT
3. using the DOWN cursor key, scroll to AMP, which is one past RCVR.
4. press SELECT
5. enter 0-8-9-2
6. press SELECT
7. press EXIT
Post 6 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 19:30
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The instructions are on page 18 of this PDF file. [Link: support.radioshack.com] They roughly match what Edmund just wrote. But:

Before Edmund's step 1 you need to have selected the device mode you want to program (press AUDIO), which Edmund may have assumed you knew.

The pdf does not include Edmund's step 4. I don't know whether it is optional or whether Edmund or the pdf is wrong
OP | Post 7 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 20:31
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Guys,

Thanks for the advice. Good news and bad. I followed your steps as outlined above and it worked fine - in that the 0892 code was accepted and loaded into the AUDIO button. However (here's the bad news), it does not seem to control in any sort of way my HK Receiver. It's the AVR130 model, which is entry level and therefore most common HK Audio Receiver. Now I'm totally stumped. Any other ideas ????
Post 8 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 20:51
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I didn't look up what AMP/0892 was before (since that didn't seem to be in question). Now I did. It is VERY different from the code set used by most H/K devices. I think it may be the code set used by the AVR80 mkII, but not any other H/K device I've seen data on.

There are several UEI setup codes that roughly fit generic H/K audio devices. But most of them aren't in the 15-2116.

Setup code CD/0173 is in the 15-2116 and probably could be used for most of the functions of your H/K device, but that may require mapping a lot of keys by advanced codes as many of its functions are specific to H/K CD devices rather than being generic H/K audio commands.

Edit: I check the AVR30 and CD/0173 is a little worse than I thought. None of the default keys fit the AVR30. Most of the AVR30's keys can be done with EFC numbers in CD/0173. For example the EFC for power is 173, the EFC for vol+ is 178. I can get you the rest if those work.

To test an EFC, first program a device key to the correct setup code (CD/0173) then select that device mode, then:
1) Short press of P
2) Key in the first two digits of the EFC number.
3) Aim the remote
4) Press and hold the third digit and look for effect.

Do not pause more than a few seconds between step 1 and 2 or between step 2 and 4.

This message was edited by johnsfine on 03/05/05 21:00 ET.
Post 9 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 21:05
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The advanced codes to use with CD0173 are here.
Post 10 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 21:06
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So far as I can tell, the 15-2116 doesn't include the other set of H/K signals at all (the DVD signals together with the Receiver signals that can't be done by EFC number in CD/0173).

The 2116 can be upgraded easily with a JP1 cable to fully support those devices.
Post 11 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 21:13
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On 03/05/05 21:05 ET, edmund said...
The advanced codes to use with CD0173 are
here.

Correct, don't be put off by the apparent difference between the power and vol+ codes on that page and the ones I gave.

Adding 256, 512 or 768 to an EFC number doesn't change its meaning (as long as the result is still 3 digits).

So I said power was 173. That page says 429, which is 173+256.

I said vol+ was 178. That page says 690, which is 178+512.
OP | Post 12 made on Saturday March 5, 2005 at 22:27
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Wow. Thanks for all the information. Going to put all this to the test tomorrow - will advise how it works out. Thanks to everyone for all the help !!!
OP | Post 13 made on Sunday March 6, 2005 at 14:25
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Now that I've got the Sunday odd jobs list done, I'm ready to tackle this. Just one clarification. I see the advanced codes that I should be trying. However, it keeps being mentioned that I should use CD Code #0173 as the baseline for the receiver. Per the earlier instructions for programming another Device (i.e. AMP) code into the AUDIO slot, should I just do the same in programming the CD Code 0173 in the Audio slot ? Going to play with this now - will check back in a little later....
Post 14 made on Sunday March 6, 2005 at 14:34
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Yes, instead of stopping on AMP, continue scrolling to you get to CD, then enter code 0173.

To map the advanced code on the 2116 follow these steps:


1. press and hold P
2. scroll down to KEYMOVER
3. press SELECT
4. press AUDIO
5. tap P for one blink
6. enter advanced code
7. press SELECT
8. press AUDIO
9. pick a key

This message was edited by edmund on 03/06/05 14:45 ET.
OP | Post 15 made on Sunday March 6, 2005 at 15:40
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Great news. With loads of thanks to the kind posters on this thread, I was indeed able to program 90% of the functionality for my Harman/Kardon AV130 Receiver to indeed work with the CD0173. For future reference for anyone referencing this thread, the only keys that gave me some difficulty were the AM/FM designation codes. When I use the appropriate codes, it always seems to default me into AM and I have to hit the button 5 times to get to FM. No biggie as I ended up using Infrared learning to help out there. Thanks again to the posters who assisted me - your assistance was utterly invaluable and I couldn't have figured this out without your help.

Now, down to one last component. Still not able to get my Harman/Kardon DVD Player to work without using Infrared learning. Unfortunately, due to the limited amount of memory on the RS 8-in-1, it's sucking up most of memory to infrared learn all the commands for the DVD player. Would anyone have any idea for a matching code that I could possibly use for this HK DVD Player ? It's model # is DVD 22. Thanks in advance !!
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