Your Universal Remote Control Center
RemoteCentral.com
One For All & Radio Shack Forum - View Post
Previous section Next section Up level
Up level
The following page was printed from RemoteCentral.com:

Login:
Pass:
 
 

Topic:
Upgrading OFA 8910 Using .WAV
This thread has 11 replies. Displaying all posts.
Post 1 made on Wednesday December 29, 2004 at 21:47
wheezer31
Lurking Member
Joined:
Posts:
December 2004
2
Need help upgrading my OFA 8910. I have the .wav file needed to upgrade the 3 new codes for my Bose LS-28, but I am not sure how to enable my 8910 remote to upgrade mode to "listen" to the .wav file. I've been trying to get in touch with customer support since Christmas, but I have only met extremely long waits (not to mention expensive phone calls).
The Wheezer
Post 2 made on Thursday December 30, 2004 at 15:30
ofafan
Founding Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2002
249
Try this:

-Turn your speakers' volume to half of MAX and turn the TONE to MAX (if any). If you have small speakers, it's better to turn up the volume more.

-Press the key labeled 'TV'. Then press and hold the 'SET' key until the LED double blinks. Then press the ‘POWER’ key to prepare the remote control for the upgrade by entering its upgrade state mode. The LED will stay on.

-Place the remote control on the face of the speaker. The remote should face you. It is recommended that your remote control's back touches the speaker.
-Click the 'Play' button below to play the sound file.

-While the sound file is playing:

-You should hear a serial beeping sound from your speakers and the remote control's device key LED should blink. The blinking indicates the sound is being accepted by the remote control.

-If you don't see the device key LED blinking while the sound file is playing or it doesn't double blink after the sound has stopped, you should wait for 5 seconds to allow the remote control to exit the upgrade state. Then you probably need to adjust the speakers' volume and/or remote's position on the surface of the speaker, and go to bullet point 1 here above and try again.

-After successful completion of the download, press and release the ‘SET’ key and the LED will double blink.

Can't guarantee this, but it should work.
Jim
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday December 30, 2004 at 21:07
wheezer31
Lurking Member
Joined:
Posts:
December 2004
2
Thanks, but actually not all of the steps worked. However, I did nab one very valuable piece of information - holding the remote with the remote control on the face of the speaker with the remote facing me and the remote control's back touching the speaker was indeed critical. I tried it several other ways before your help, and that was the only way it worked. So here is the breakdown in case anyone needs it. Again, this is how to set up the OFA URC 8910 remote to "listen" to a .wav file:

1. Press and hold the 'SET' key until 'CODE SET' reads on the LCD.
2. Scroll up once to the "UPGRADE" function.
3. Press 'SELECT'. "DOWNLOAD" will appear on the LCD.
4. Press 'SELECT' again. The LED will stay on.
5. Place the remote control on the face of the speaker. The remote should face you. It is recommended that your remote control's back touches the speaker (very critical - failure to follow this exactly will lead to download error).
6. 'Play' the .wav/sound file.
7. While the sound file is playing:
-You should hear a serial beeping sound from your speakers and the remote control's device key LED should blink. The blinking indicates the sound is being accepted by the remote control.
-If you don't see the device key LED blinking while the sound file is playing or it doesn't double blink after the sound has stopped, you should wait for 5 seconds to allow the remote control to exit the upgrade state. Then you probably need to adjust the speakers' volume and/or remote's position on the surface of the speaker, and go to bullet point 1 and try again.
8. After successful completion of the download, the LCD will flash "SUCCESS" and exit download mode.

Thanks to ofafan for the info, and to The Robman for the .wav file.
The Wheezer
Post 4 made on Saturday January 1, 2005 at 18:48
ofafan
Founding Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2002
249
Sorry, I forgot yours was an LCD remote. These usually take commands differently than the non-LCDs. Glad you got it to work out.
Jim
Post 5 made on Friday June 3, 2005 at 06:57
DBrown
Founding Member
Joined:
Posts:
February 2002
1,049
I know this is an old thread, but I just now got an 8910, and have some upgrade question.

If I take the time to create a device upgrade using keymapmaster or whatever, how is it made into a .WAV file?

Is there a site where .WAV files of device upgrades are available for download?

Where in the 8910's memory do .WAV upgrades go?

Thanks,

Dave B.
Post 6 made on Friday June 3, 2005 at 08:19
johnsfine
IR Expert
Joined:
Posts:
September 2002
5,159
On 06/03/05 06:57 ET, DBrown said...
If I take the time to create a device upgrade
using keymapmaster or whatever, how is it made
into a .WAV file?

If you have installed the IR.EXE program and the Ir2wav package and told IR.EXE where Ir2Wav is, then there are commands in IR's file menu to export to a wav file.

So you transfer the upgrade(s) from KM to IR in the usual way (as if you would be using a JP1 cable) but then export to a .wav file instead of using the cable.


Is there a site where .WAV files of device upgrades
are available for download?

There is only one upgrade (bose) in the JP1 group's "collection" of .wav files for 8910.
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
I don't know of any other collection of .wav files for 8910.

Where in the 8910's memory do .WAV upgrades go?

The 8910 has 4 kinds of memory: read-only memory, eeprom, ram and a register file. Everything loaded by JP1 cable or by .wav file goes into the eeprom only.

The eeprom memory is divided into several sections. By JP1 cable or by .wav file you can write to any part of the eeprom. But you can't read the eeprom without the cable and you can't make a correct small change to a section of the eeprom without first reading what was in that section before. So the .wav process can replace entire sections of the eeprom, but it can't add to or change part of a section.

Regardless of your choice of JP1 cable or .wav, a large section of the eeprom is reserved for upgrades. (unless you change the rules with an "extender") that section of eeprom isn't used for anything else. So if you use a .wav file to replace the upgrade section of the eeprom it is replacing all and only previous upgrades. Built-in setup codes are in ROM, not eeprom. KeyMoves, macros, learned signals, etc. are in other eeprom sections.
Post 7 made on Friday June 3, 2005 at 11:13
DBrown
Founding Member
Joined:
Posts:
February 2002
1,049
Thank you very much, johnsfine.

So a device upgrade alone can't be wav'd or jp1'd to the remote without the whole remote image. Since I do have all the JP1 tools and the 8910 is JP1 ready, I'll skip the WAV step, and use IR to upgrade my remotes with the cable. I'll guess that using a modem over a phone line was Oneforall's strategy for upgrading remotes.

It does impress me how much technology they can squeeze into a $35 remote. Anyone thought of any other good uses for that internal moDEM? I'll guess it's one-way since I haven't heard any modem sounds coming from my remote. Make the LCD display a bit bigger, add a phone jack, and have a portable dial-up internet device? Naw, never mind. I'm on DSL now and will never go back to dial-up!

Dave B. ;-)
Post 8 made on Friday June 3, 2005 at 11:20
johnsfine
IR Expert
Joined:
Posts:
September 2002
5,159
On 06/03/05 11:13 ET, DBrown said...
So a device upgrade alone can't be wav'd or jp1'd
to the remote without the whole remote image.

I didn't say that at all. A device upgrade can't be wav'd without replacing all upgrades. But if you haven't done any upgrades before, there is probably nothing that would be replaced the first time.

You can wav the upgrade area without replacing the setup data, keymoves, macros, learned signals, etc.

Since I do have all the JP1 tools and the 8910
is JP1 ready, I'll skip the WAV step, and use
IR to upgrade my remotes with the cable.

Good idea. But lets not leave this thread in a state that will confuse others who may find it while looking to upgrade without the cable.

Anyone thought of
any other good uses for that internal moDEM?
I'll guess it's one-way since I haven't heard
any modem sounds coming from my remote.

Technically, a modem is a modulator/demodulator. The "modem" in the 8910 is just a demodulator.

It also uses a cruder modulation system than any dial-up internet modem.
Post 9 made on Friday June 3, 2005 at 12:05
DBrown
Founding Member
Joined:
Posts:
February 2002
1,049
OK, I've sort of got it now. Thanks again, johnsfine.

Now I just need to make my setup button thicker on my 8910.

Any good suggestions where to map the thumbs-up and thumbs-down button from my SAT DirecTIVO to? I've been considering the FFwd and FRev buttons, since they aren't used while watching the TIVO. The COM SKIP button I'll use for 30 second skip, but I need a logical place to put the 15 second replay button. Yea, I shoulda got a newer model with all those buttons included!

Oh well.... ;-)
Post 10 made on Sunday June 5, 2005 at 12:33
OFASUPPORT
Lurking Member
Joined:
Posts:
June 2005
4
Hey,

If you don't want to sit and take the time to actually search all this information out and attempt and hope and pray that it actually works for you just call OFA and their customer support will walk you through everything and set you up with everything that you need....just make sure that you are on a landline phone with no DSL or make sure you DSL is disconnected and you will be golden

OFASUPPORT
Post 11 made on Sunday June 5, 2005 at 17:02
ofafan
Founding Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2002
249
DBrown,
Just want to say congratulations on figuring out this solution. I'm sure you are aware by now that answers to your questions are easily found (or answered) here and in the jp1 forum.
Jim
Post 12 made on Sunday June 5, 2005 at 19:16
DBrown
Founding Member
Joined:
Posts:
February 2002
1,049
On 06/05/05 12:33 ET, OFASUPPORT said...
If you don't want to sit and take the time to
actually search all this information out and attempt
and hope and pray that it actually works for you
just call OFA and their customer support will
walk you through everything and set you up with
everything that you need....just make sure that
you are on a landline phone with no DSL or make
sure you DSL is disconnected and you will be golden

OFASUPPORT

Thanks, OFASUPPORT. Two points: OFA support maintains only regular business hours, and is not available evenings or weekends when I usually need them. Second: Although I know I can get device upgrades from OFA, does OFA support offer to custom configure my remotes to work like I want them to? You know, like making the Home Theater button into the SETUP button, and adding macros on the shifted device buttons which call other macros from within themselves?

Sincerely, Dave B.


Jump to


Protected Feature Before you can reply to a message...
You must first register for a Remote Central user account - it's fast and free! Or, if you already have an account, please login now.

Please read the following: Unsolicited commercial advertisements are absolutely not permitted on this forum. Other private buy & sell messages should be posted to our Marketplace. For information on how to advertise your service or product click here. Remote Central reserves the right to remove or modify any post that is deemed inappropriate.

Hosting Services by ipHouse