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URC-9960 (Kameleon 8) wav-file for Nokia Sat 8000
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Post 1 made on Tuesday November 30, 2004 at 14:13
ulu76
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Hello!

I'm German and've bought a Kameleon 8 via E-Bay.
Now I'm looking for a wav-file for my Nokia satellite receiver 8000.
Does anybody has this file to send it by mail or is there a possibility to create this file on my own?

Thanks

Ulrich
Post 2 made on Tuesday November 30, 2004 at 14:55
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That one (Nokia satellite receiver 8000) is a bit harder than similar questions we get.

The web site for the 8060 lists 8 different setup codes for Nokia SAT devices:
[Link: oneforall-int.com]
Probably one of those is right for your device, but I'm not sure of that. Seven of those eight setup codes use protocols for which the support in the JP1 group isn't very good (which makes building the .wav a little harder). It would be a lot of work to build and test .wav files for several of those before discovering which matches your model.

There are JP1 upgrades for a few Nokia SAT device here:
[Link: groups.yahoo.com]
Those are easier starting points for .wav files and probably match some of those eight setup codes. But none of the models listed is the 8000. The 8000 might use the same signals as one of those. I have no basis for guessing that.

There are CCF files for more Nokia models here:
[Link: remotecentral.com]
including the 8001s from Italy. Again, no exact match for 8000. But if you have any other source of information about which of those models uses the same signals as the 8000, the CCF has enough information to build a .wav file.

I've described the basic process of building your own .wav file several times in this forum and the JP1 help documents fill in the missing details, so if you want to try those posted JP1 upgrades or those CCF files there is enough information posted for you to get it done (though not very easily).
Post 3 made on Tuesday November 30, 2004 at 15:15
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Many of the Nokia SAT devices use a protocol named "NRC17".

I'm pretty sure that is the UEI pid 00BD used in setup codes SAT/0723 and SAT/0573.

There have been at least two discussions of NRC17 in the JP1 forum:
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
[Link: hifi-remote.com]

But it doesn't look like any of the JP1 experts ever followed through and sorted out the details of how pid-00BD corresponds to NRC17, and added understandable support for it to KM or RM.
OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday December 1, 2004 at 05:40
ulu76
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Thanks for your help.

My brother has a Nokia 8001 and the remote control works with my receiver.

Maybe the ccf code (from Italy) works with my reciever,too.

Ulrich
Post 5 made on Wednesday December 1, 2004 at 08:52
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I may have some time later to create and post a .wav file for that 8001s.

I'm pretty sure that is roughly equal to the UEI setup code SAT/0573.
Post 6 made on Wednesday December 1, 2004 at 10:58
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John clued me into the NRC17 / $00BD issues yesterday, so hopefully I will be able to offer some opinions soon. I do have a suggestion for situations where the OFA site offers many different codes for one device and you have no idea which is the right one.

You could download a WAV file from the OFA site (for any European remote with the same processor), convert it into an IR file, then do a quick bit of cut&paste work to convert that IR file into the one for your remote. Obviously, the buttons are all going to be messed up, but the main buttons (ie, numbers, ch+/-, vol+/- and power) should still line up correctly. Then, you could convert this new IR file into a WAV file for the user to test. Once he has determined which setup code matches his device (even though the buttons are messed up), you'll know which code to concentrate on.
Rob.
[Link: hifi-remote.com]
Post 7 made on Wednesday December 1, 2004 at 11:29
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On 12/01/04 10:58 ET, The Robman said...
You could download a WAV file from the OFA site
(for any European remote with the same processor),

That idea tends to assume you found a European OFA model (such as the 8060) that has the desired setup code built-in (or the setup code wouldn't have been in that list).

Then it assumes you found a European .wav capable OFA model that DOESN'T have that setup code built-in, because I assume (correct me if I'm wrong) you can't download a .wav file from the web site for a setup code that's already built-in.

I don't know of a European .wav capable model that doesn't have SAT/0573 built-in.


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