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9910 and a Bose LS28
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Post 16 made on Thursday November 18, 2004 at 21:06
edmund
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If I were you, no matter what remote you finally chose to get, I would also get a 8910. Call UEI, have the codes Mr E listed above 1355. 1356, 1357, loaded into the 8910. Now you have IR commands easily abled to be taught to a learning remote. You do not need the added expense of 9910.
The bose can be set to respond to IR commands, the problem is getting those IR commands. None of the remotes in this forum have enough learning memory, for you to use the blink-back feature of your Bose LS system. How the blink-back feature works, you need set the LS via menu to enable IR echoing. You then press a key on the RF remote, the LS would send out the IR equivalent, for your learning remote to capture.
Post 17 made on Thursday November 18, 2004 at 21:47
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If you're interested in a "One For All" remote, whether you decide to get into JP1 or not, I can pre-program any of the remotes that I sell to work your Bose. The URC-8811 would be a good choice at $19 plus $4 shipping. If you want a JP1 cable too, which would let you program the remote yourself from your own computer, I can include one for $15.
Rob.
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Post 18 made on Thursday November 18, 2004 at 22:33
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Just to clarify, the Bose systems are RF not IR as I originally posted.

Newbie mistake.
Post 19 made on Friday November 19, 2004 at 08:41
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In that case, you can still make this work. What you need is a C-1024 box, which you can get for $150 from BlueDo, which will convert IR signals into RF signals for the Bose. I have the upgrades that you'll need to make an OFA remote work with the C-1024.

It's not cheap but it will do what you want.
Rob.
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Post 20 made on Friday November 19, 2004 at 09:45
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On 11/18/04 20:42 ET, pdub said...
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First of all my current system consists of:
42" Panasonic Plasma Monitor
Bose Lifestyle 28/35 Home Entertainment System
General Instrument Cable Converter Box
Sony CDP-C245 multi disk CD player

Today I went and purchased a URC-300 remote ...had | the Panni, and the GI Cable
box programmed in just a few minutes. So far
so good.

Good.

The codes provided for the CD player
didn't work, but I figured I'd work that out later.

You could have learned them directly into the 300. It has enough memory.

The problem begins with the Bose system. From
what I gather reading here, the URC-300 and the
Bose are incompatable since the Bose is an IR
emitter/receiver,

IR *AND* RF (you made the RF correction in a later post). The Bose Lifestyle 28/35 Home Entertainment System can accept either IR *OR* RF commands. More on that later.

and the URC-300 is something
else.

It is an IR *AND* RF emitter, IR only receiver. It can not directly control your Bose, without the RF extender module referred to below.

Now the packaging doesn't mention this,
but it goes on and on about how you can boost
the performance with an add on IR repeater kind
of device for additional bucks.

They are referring to a MRF-100A RF extender module which allows you to control the system from anywhere in the house, just like your original remote. Reread the review on this site to learn more about it.

I know, they're
talking about different things, but at the time
of purchase I didn't realize that the remote was
going to cause a problem. Or that it talked a
different language, if you will.

Ahh, but it doesn't!

Anyway it didn't work,

Presumably because you didn't change the system setup menu option to Receive IR Commands (page 33 of your manual).

|and after I called Tech
Support, the guy told me that I could buy some
other device from some OTHER company that would
make the IR talk to the remote or something.

There are a couple of devices that act the same as the MRF-100A RF extender module, yes.

Actually I started to get confused at that point.
Furthermore, I didn't want to have to go buy
something else and find out (possibly) that it
didn't work too. I'm trying to make things simpler
right?!?

Yes.

OK, so I make another trip to the store, let the
salesman guy know that it doesn't work with Bose
and get my money back.

When I get home I start searching for IR remotes,
and find some info about using the Bose wired
IR emitter (which I have) to learn the remote.
But I don't see how that can work since it's
still using IR frequency right? And, now I don't
have the remote to even test this. I also find
some info about OFA 9910 remotes, which by the
way sell on-line for a lot less, but then there's
talk of a true learning remote, additional tuner
codes, not enough memory, a JP1 cable and programming,
setup codes that aren't included, toggle bits.....I'm
LOST!

Yes, you are.

If anyone has any ideas about what direction they
would go if they were me, I would really appreciate
the advice.


Philip,
Your Bose can be set to receive RF (works from around the house) or IR (line of sight) commands. But it can only receive one kind at a time.

The URC-300 sends IR commands. It also has a module inside it that sends RF commands on the frequency of the MRF-100A RF extender module (NOT the same frequency as the Bose). The MRF-100A RF extender module receives these commands and converts them to IR.

If your system is set up to receive only IR, then you can not control your living room system from the bedroom with just the remote. You are not in the line of sight.

If you have a device that sits on a table in front of your system (MRF-100A RF extender module) and relays the command for you, you can. Making sense?

Your Bose system also has an IR emitter to teach the commands to an IR remote. More in your manual.

Your options:
1. Go back and get the URC-300 with no MRF-100A RF extender module. You will only be able to control your system while in front of it.
2. Go back and get the URC-300 with MRF-100A RF extender module. You will be able to control your system from anywhere.
3. Save some money and buy yourself a URC-9910. It has the RF extender module, and VERY good technical support even if you don't go the jp1 route. For jp1 info see Robman's signature.

Any questions, ask again.

Jim
Post 21 made on Friday November 19, 2004 at 11:57
pdub
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Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!!!

I was right! This is absolutly the best source of information for remotes.

I spent several hours again last night checking threads back as far as a year ago to try and figure this mess out. Edmund, Robman and Jim, your responses are very much appreciated. I think I'm going to go with option 3 that Jim posted above. I do not want to give up the RF capabilities, and I like the jp1 alternatives. I'm pretty good with computers and I like the idea of backing everything up also.

Best Buy lists one for ~$60. Once I get back home, I understand I still will need to call OFA customer support and get them to play a .wav file that will download the 1335, 1336, 1337 setup codes. Correct?

One other thing, I don't have (or can't find) the Sony CDP-C245 remote. So I can't learn that part. Anybody know any more codes to try, or have a link? The 6 or so that were included with the URC-300 didn't work the off/on function. A couple of the codes did actually start the PLAY function however.

Thanks again for everyones help!!!

Philip
Post 22 made on Friday November 19, 2004 at 12:08
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On 11/19/04 11:57 ET, pdub said...
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!!!

You are welcome.

Best Buy lists one for ~$60.

Rob has some. See this link. [Link: hifi-remote.com]. If you get it from him and get the cable with it you still save 5 bucks.

FYI, the ring versions are not very popular, especially if you have larger hands. A search on this forum for posts regarding that will tell you more.

Once I get back
home, I understand I still will need to call OFA
customer support and get them to play a .wav file
that will download the 1335, 1336, 1337 setup
codes. Correct?

Not to speak for him, but if you ask real nice, Rob may even load that for you before sending it.

One other thing, I don't have (or can't find)
the Sony CDP-C245 remote. So I can't learn that
part. Anybody know any more codes to try, or
have a link? The 6 or so that were included with
the URC-300 didn't work the off/on function.
A couple of the codes did actually start the
PLAY function however.

If you start into jp1, that will not be a problem. Eventually the group can come up with just about anything. There is a good chance that someone has already built an upgrade for that, and if not, likely will help you to do so.
Post 23 made on Friday November 19, 2004 at 12:22
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On 11/19/04 12:08 ET, ofafan said...
the ring versions are not very popular

what's a ring version?

Never mind. I think I figured it out.

This message was edited by pdub on 11/19/04 12:31 ET.
Post 24 made on Friday November 19, 2004 at 12:53
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As for the CD player, try code CD0000, but all commands with cd player on. Most sony cd players don't have a power command. So there isn't a command mapped to the power key on OFA using the sony code.
Post 25 made on Friday November 19, 2004 at 13:28
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Hey Philip,
I assume it's the URC-9910 you were looking at at Best Buy. If so, I have the older "ring" version for sale at $29 each, and the newer "arrow key" version for $40. If I re-package the remote I can ship it for $4, otherwise the shipping will be in the $5 to $7 range depending on where you live.

I can also include a JP1 cable for $15 and I can pre-load all the Bose codes that I have.
Rob.
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Post 26 made on Saturday November 20, 2004 at 20:15
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On 11/19/04 12:53 ET, edmund said...

Most sony cd players don't have a power command. So there isn't a command mapped to the power key on OFA using the sony code.

GASP! You mean I might actually have to get out of my new Lazy-Boy recliner and walk over and physically mash a button on the player. Oh...... my heart...... I don't think I can.....do.......it...... I mean it's waaaaay over there...... and I could fall down, or worse get lost. :-)

I'll be AWOL for the next week, so I'll give you a shout Robman, when I return.
Post 27 made on Saturday November 20, 2004 at 20:18
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Oh, and I forgot, I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving!

Philip
Post 28 made on Sunday November 21, 2004 at 15:02
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Hey Phil, my CD player doesn't have a remote controllable POWER button either, so I have it hooked up to an X10 box. A serious remote control user NEVER gets up from the couch!!!
Rob.
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Post 29 made on Sunday December 12, 2004 at 03:32
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I have a Bose Lifestyle 35 & got the 9910 specifically so that I could control it. Tech support told me I needed code 1357 & downloaded it over the phone. Assigned it to the Receiver button. I do have IR transmit & receive both activated on the Bose. So far so good. But all that the 9910 seems to be able to control is to power the Bose on & off. The volume up & down, the primary buttons, don't seem to work. Nothing else seems to work. Thought that my download was somehow corrupted, asked tech support to reset the remote & download again. But with the same results. I have in addition a Scientific Atlanta 3250 HD cable box, Zenith DVB318 DVD player, Gateway P42M102 plasma tv which are also programmed.

Any suggestions ?

Is some other component over-riding the Bose volume ? Do I need a code other than the 1357 - there seem to be 2 other Bose related codes ?
Post 30 made on Sunday December 12, 2004 at 03:54
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There are 3 codes for the LS 28 & 35, 1355, 1356,& 1357.
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