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9910 and a Bose LS28
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Post 1 made on Thursday September 2, 2004 at 16:37
shamelessbill
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Hi all,
I need a universal to replace the motes for a phillips plasma, a bose LS28 and a HD cable box.
Will the 9910 be OK? I don't see any Bose codes preprogrammed into it.

SB
Post 2 made on Thursday September 2, 2004 at 17:14
edmund
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Nope, there are no codes, and not enough memory to learn the commands from the bose receiver. You need a true learning remote, my meaning of a true learning remote, is it accepts a learned command for every key in every device. Some examples are Sony vl900, vl700, HTM mx-500,600. URC100, 200, and 300.
Post 3 made on Thursday September 2, 2004 at 17:43
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The OFA Audio/tuner codes 1355, 1356 and 1357 works like a charm for the Bose Lifestyle 28 and 35 series. However make sure you buy a OneForAll with modem, you will have to upgrade these codes.
Post 4 made on Thursday September 2, 2004 at 17:44
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Probably Edmund can guess better than I can which setup codes those devices need and so he's probably correct in saying the 9910 lacks the setup code(s) you need.

The 9910 certainly has not enough memory to rely entirely on learning to support multiple typical devices (and other remotes do have that much). I'm not convinced the 9910 has too little to use learning for all of one device if you don't need any learning for other devices. It will vary by device but typically there is enough.

Anyway, if a 9910 without programming by JP1 cable isn't enough for the task then a 9910 (or other JP1 remote) programmed by JP1 cable is the best answer. Even adding the cost of the cable, the price is less than most (maybe all) those others and the end results will be better.
Post 5 made on Thursday September 2, 2004 at 17:56
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On 09/02/04 21:43 ET, Mr_E said...
The OFA Audio/tuner codes 1355, 1356 and 1357
works like a charm for the Bose Lifestyle 28 and
35 series. However make sure you buy a OneForAll
with modem, you will have to upgrade these codes.

This info only a former UEI employee would have.:) If these codes work, then the 9910 with its built-in modem should do the trick. Please let us know, if they work. One more thing, make sure you get then new version of the 9910 with separate cursor pad.

I was just thinking, I hope you weren't hoping that the 9910 would control your bose directly via RF? Because no universal remote can do that.
Post 6 made on Thursday September 2, 2004 at 18:53
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Edmund is right, the 1355 code (or it's 1356 / 1357 cousins) is an IR-code, so please make sure the "receive IR" option in the Bose systemmenu is enabled.
OP | Post 7 made on Friday September 3, 2004 at 09:08
shamelessbill
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I was planning on using the blaster in a cabinet.
If the stupid bose remote could change video inputs on the phillips plasma I wouldn't be worrying about this at all.

Yes I would, no backlight or macros is just stupid for a high end remote...

I'll try the codes and see what happens.

Will post results next week, thanks for the great advice from all posters.

SB
Post 8 made on Friday September 3, 2004 at 09:22
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On 09/03/04 13:08 ET, shamelessbill said...
I'll try the codes and see what happens.

Did you understand those setup codes aren't included in the 9910?

To try them you need to call OFA customer support. They can play a .wav file over the phone which the 9910 can receive, which will add those setup codes.
OP | Post 9 made on Friday September 3, 2004 at 12:08
shamelessbill
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No, I didn't understand that but thanks for letting me know :)
Doesn't sound like too big of a roadblock.
Bill
Post 10 made on Saturday September 4, 2004 at 10:01
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There is a Bose Lifestyle 28 upgrade code over in the Yahoo jp1 group files area. See [Link: groups.yahoo.com]
Post 11 made on Saturday September 4, 2004 at 10:09
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On 09/04/04 14:01 ET, EMT said...
There is a Bose Lifestyle 28 upgrade code over
in the Yahoo jp1 group files area.

Since Bill apparently doesn't have a JP1 cable, he can't use that easily. He could use JP1 software without the cable to convert that to a .wav file he could use. That approach is pretty hard.

If his location or phone service or other issues make calling OFA customer support expensive or difficult, or make telephone transfer of the .wav file unreliable, then he might want to use the JP1 file instead. But probably calling OFA customer support is the easier solution.
Post 12 made on Saturday September 4, 2004 at 14:24
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Do the OFA remotes handle RC5 toggle bits correctly?

Thanks...

Greg
Post 13 made on Saturday September 4, 2004 at 14:31
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If you use a built-in setup code or an upgrade or a KeyMove then the toggle bit works right in RC5 (and RC5x, RC6, RECS80, Thomson and other toggle bit protocols).

But if you learn the signal the toggle bit doesn't work. Some other brand learning remotes sometimes recognise toggle bit protocols in learned signals and automatically translate to a form where the toggle bit works. The OFA remotes don't. If you learn the signal you get only one toggle state.

If you have a device using such a protocol and don't know what setup code or upgrade it needs, so you can only get the signals in via learning, then you need a JP1 cable so you can decode the signals on a PC and convert them to a form where the toggle bit will work. (But if one of the experts like MR_E recognises the model and tells you which upgrade you need, then you can skip all that).
OP | Post 14 made on Friday September 10, 2004 at 21:10
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I'm starting to wonder if it's all worth it. Maybe another cocktail and I won't even remember to be bothered by using multiple remotes?
Who the heck do these Bose primadonnas think they are anyway?
Post 15 made on Thursday November 18, 2004 at 20:42
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Hello All,

I'm new to this board and have a somewhat complicated (for me) question.

I'm looking to consolidate my remotes and have run into a problem with my existing choice of hardware, and trying to run everything from one remote.

I have spent a couple of hours searching for information on this and other sites, and this seem to be THE place to find answers, so here goes.

First of all my current system consists of:
42" Panasonic Plasma Monitor
Bose Lifestyle 28/35 Home Entertainment System
General Instrument Cable Converter Box
Sony CDP-C245 multi disk CD player

Today I went and purchased a URC-300 remote based on the extensive review I read here on this site. ($180.19 from Hi-Fi Buys just in case you're wondering) I got the remote home, and after watching the included DVD had the Panni, and the GI Cable box programmed in just a few minutes. So far so good. The codes provided for the CD player didn't work, but I figured I'd work that out later.

The problem begins with the Bose system. From what I gather reading here, the URC-300 and the Bose are incompatable since the Bose is an IR emitter/receiver, and the URC-300 is something else. Now the packaging doesn't mention this, but it goes on and on about how you can boost the performance with an add on IR repeater kind of device for additional bucks. I know, they're talking about different things, but at the time of purchase I didn't realize that the remote was going to cause a problem. Or that it talked a different language, if you will.

Anyway it didn't work, and after I called Tech Support, the guy told me that I could buy some other device from some OTHER company that would make the IR talk to the remote or something. Actually I started to get confused at that point. Furthermore, I didn't want to have to go buy something else and find out (possibly) that it didn't work too. I'm trying to make things simpler right?!?

OK, so I make another trip to the store, let the salesman guy know that it doesn't work with Bose and get my money back.

When I get home I start searching for IR remotes, and find some info about using the Bose wired IR emitter (which I have) to learn the remote. But I don't see how that can work since it's still using IR frequency right? And, now I don't have the remote to even test this. I also find some info about OFA 9910 remotes, which by the way sell on-line for a lot less, but then there's talk of a true learning remote, additional tuner codes, not enough memory, a JP1 cable and programming, setup codes that aren't included, toggle bits.....I'm LOST!

If anyone has any ideas about what direction they would go if they were me, I would really appreciate the advice.

Sorry about being so long winded, but like I stated, it got kinda complicated quickly.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Philip
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