Howdy. Just purchased RS 2116. I have Sony db940. Its the one with the two way lcd screen remote. I do not like the Sony remote. Its just too much and not user friendly.

I have the RS 2116 working except for one thing. I can't select dvd/ld player when using audio function. I can cycle the Sony through all inputs to the reciever, fm, tv, video 1, etc., BUT the DVD/LD option.

I have tried all codes. Planning on going the learning route but thought I'd ask here first.

Any ideas?

And I am interested in the jp1 stuff. Will be looking into that some more!

Jim

Well nothing like asking a question that's been asked a bazillion times! Me bad.

Okay so I'm looking at jp1? Don't mind doing this but its a little scary.

So the steps are program the 2116 by using the learning functions.

Then download the memory of the 2116 to my computer.

Then reupload the "learned" codes back to the 2116 so as to have the newer codes be the default codes to save memory and have the remote be customized?

Jim

Sounds like you've got it.

Rob
http://www.hifi-remote.com

The JP1 cable attaches to serial port on computer?

I've emailed OFA via R's site. Seems like this problem is widespread enough that OFA could have addressed it by now.

Even the command code keymoves listed here:
[Link: anycities.com]

Specifically Command Code 107 and 125 which is EFC 124 and 191

Insructions for converting other command codes at:
[Link: anycities.com]

The JP1 attaches to the parrallel port.
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I did look at those pages. But I must confess to a great deal of confusion.

I have done keymapping for several of the keys. But either I don't understand how to enter some of the new device codes or the 2116 doesn't recongnize them.

I could use step by step instructions.

Jim

Here is the answer from customer support regarding the steps. This works. But the codes they suggested do not. They suggested, 384/636/447. I also tried the codes from the link above, 107/125/124/191. They don't work either. The codes suggested for other functions are off a bit too for the db940.

I need to see if anyone has the codes for the db940?

Advanced Function Code Instructions 15-2116/15-2117

1.Press the DEVICE KEY one time and let it go.
2.Press and hold the P button until CODE SET appears.
3.Press the ARROW UP/DOWN until you see KEYMOVER.
4.Press SELECT one time. The screen will read FROM MODE.
5.Press the DEVICE KEY one time. The screen will read FROM KEY.
6.Press P one time. The screen will change to SYNT.
7.Enter your three digit advanced function code.
8.Press SELECT. The screen will read TO MODE.
9.Press the DEVICE KEY. The screen will read TO KEY.
10.Press the key where you want the function to be stored. The remote
will flash SUCCESS and then EXIT SETUP and will return to the main display
screen.
11.Try the button to see if it will access the function you need.

Jim

It was unclear from your earlier post whether you were looking for steps to do this the JP1 way or the non JP1 way. I don't know exactly which commands you're trying to send (device number and command number from RHM's list) so I don't know whether the non JP1 way can send those commands at all.


They add multiples of 256 to the EFC numbers that they give you. The remote ignores that, so 384 (which is 256+128) does the exact same thing as 128. 636 (which is 256*2 + 124) does the same as 124 and 447 does the same as 191. I'm describing all that so you understand the relationship between what you get from UEI and what you get from RHM's pages.


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That step does nothing in the 15-2116 version of a key move. In other models it sets a default that lets you skip step 5 and/or 9 if it matches the default.


This press of a DEVICE KEY is selecting a setup code for the source of the KeyMove. That setup code must have been programmed onto that Device Key before you start the key move. That setup code must include the Sony device number associated with the command (as documented on RHM's site) and that setup code must suuport EFCs (the 3 digit advanced codes). Most likely that setup code is the problem when it didn't work for you.

Do you understand the process enough to tell us which setup code was programmed to the Device key used in step 5.


That press of a DEVICE KEY determines the device mode in which the new Key Move will be stored. It can be the same or different from the Device Key in step 5.

I think I could figure out the code but I have no way to do so. Don't have the jp1 stuff yet and so even if I "learn" the code, I can't look at it yet to tell what it is.

I am trying to program the 2116 to go to dvd/ld. It goes to all but it. And my 7 key on the remote when in receiver mode does nothing. I can keymove to it and that preprogrammed code will work on the 7 key. Did that just to check that 7 key was actually working.

The code list is different than the way my remote works. Like what it says the 5 key does, my 6 key does, etc. So the codes don't seem to be exactly what my rcvr is looking for.

It uses the Sony two way lcd programmable, learning remote. Forgot the model number. I hate it. Delays, etc., to save power... Its a nuisance.

When I get the jp1 stuff I can look at the codes. Until then I was hoping someone had them.

Sorry but sometimes I have to think on a thing for a few minutes.

Are you saying the original setup code has to be correct AS WELL AS the new code I'm being told to enter in the SYNT function?

Jim

A setup code is a a four digit number plus a device type that you program onto a device key.

An EFC code is a three digit number (such as the 124 and 191) discussed in this thread.

To transmit a signal, the remote needs both a setup code and an EFC code. When you define a KeyMove by the steps you listed above it gets the setup code from step 5 and the EFC code from step 7.

Maybe these EFC codes aren't correct for your Sony device, or maybe the setup code wasn't correct. I don't see enough information in this thread to determine that.

BTW, an OBC number (such as the 107 and 125 discussed in this thread) represents the true form of the information that an EFC code carries in obscured form (yes I know that to a beginner they're equally obscure) and the OBC number is useless without JP1, but with JP1 may be easier to use than the EFC.

It seems to me the setup code does not contain the proper information and no matter what I put in for the advanced or extended codes it is not going to matter.

These are the Sony setup codes I have tried.

1058, 1258, 1158, 0415.

The 1058 does everything BUT turn the receiver to dvd/ld.

0415 does nothing.

1258 and 1158 are similar to 1058 but don't work as well as 1058 for other functions.

Jim

The Setup codes for sony receiver in the 2116 do not accept advanced codes. John isn't there a way of using the sony tape deck code?

Actually there seems to be a way. Or at least a step closer. Did the search on the setup code for tape. Found it in another thread. Used the advanced code/synt method and the 636 code when selecting tape mode turns the reciever to dvd/ld. BUT when I key map that key, now working, to the rcvr mode, it won't take the code.

Jim