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Does anyone have the advanced code for Sony Video7 (DVI)
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Post 1 made on Thursday January 23, 2003 at 09:38
mx500shawn
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Does anyone have the advanced code for Sony Video7 (DVI)?

I don't want to go the JP1 method, because I'm lazy and I only need this code to finish programming my MX500.

Thanks
Post 2 made on Thursday January 23, 2003 at 10:31
jamesgammel
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I like your honesty.

You didn't say if you even have a uiec remote, so will knowing an advance code even do you any good?

If you do, first find the setup code that works the unit, even if minimally. then take that setup code and check rob's site for the advance codes for that setup code. Program your remote to issue that command, and teach it to your MX-500.
Jim
Post 3 made on Thursday January 23, 2003 at 10:37
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The best collection of Sony codes is at
[Link: anycities.com]

I haven't noticed any command named "video 7" there, but I probably don't understand your question, so it might be there.

If it isn't there and you find it elsewhere, please send an email to rhm, so he can add it.

If I'm not the only one who doesn't understand your question, you might want to clarify it.

I assume you're talking about some specific Sony device that has selectable inputs and one of those inputs is named Video7 and that's the only one you don't know how to select. If you mention the UEI setup code that selects other inputs and/or the Sony device code, that might make your question easier to answer.
OP | Post 4 made on Thursday January 23, 2003 at 11:37
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I have an OFA Cinema 7. I'm trying to get the discrete code for Video 7 (input 7) on a Sony KP-51WS500 TV. I see codes for Video 1 through Video 6, but not Video 7, which is the DVI connector for HDTV.

I have all of the other video discretes setup on the MX500 through the Cinema 7.

This web site, [Link: anycities.com], doesn't have the code for Video 7 or Input 7.

Ath this web site, [Link: groups.yahoo.com], someone posted the Pronto codes for Video 7.

Is there a way to convert a Pronto code to an OFA advanced code?
Post 5 made on Thursday January 23, 2003 at 13:19
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That's a members only link and I don't have time to join at the moment.

If the Pronto code is inside a Pronto CCF file, there is a program (ccf2efc) that will give you the UEI advanced codes (EFCs). If the Pronto hex is just posted as hex, several of us here know how to manually translate.
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday January 23, 2003 at 13:39
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Sorry, I forgot that it's a member only board.

Here's the interesting stuff:

Until I get the more complete list pulled togehter, here's V7. It
was on device 151, code 66 (raw Sony code). Here's the Pronto IR:

0000 0067 0000 0010 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018
0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018
0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0336

If anyone can convert this to an OFA adavanced code, it would be greatly appreciated.


This message was edited by mx500shawn on 01/23/03 14:02.
OP | Post 7 made on Thursday January 23, 2003 at 16:11
mx500shawn
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I also found this on a another board:

Here is the discrete code for Video 7 for a Sony.

0000 0067 0000 0010 0060 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0336

Could someone translate this into an OFA code.

Thanks
Post 8 made on Thursday January 23, 2003 at 16:20
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On 01/23/03 13:39, mx500shawn said...
was on device 151, code 66 (raw Sony code). Here's
the Pronto IR:

The 151 and 66 fully tells what signal it is. As long as the Pronto hex was there anyway, I decoded it to make sure the 151 and 66 are correct.

The bad news is that I haven't found any UEI setup code for Sony device 151. The "advanced code" lets you specify the command (the 66) and select between the two device codes in each setup code, but there is no way to specify an arbitrary device number.

It's all easy with JP1, but unless I missed some setup code for device 151, it's quite impossible without JP1.
Post 9 made on Thursday January 23, 2003 at 20:22
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FWIW, I went to that yahoo group and "joined". I elected "No email" 5 minutes later I was bombarded (literally) with well over 20 emails from the moderator, several of which were repeats. I expected one--acceptance or not into the group. However, part was obviously spam: let me introduce xxxx, which is a testimonial about the professional services he provides for a certain area of the country(most of whom were 1000-1750 miles away from me. I certainly didn't expect that bombardment, especially from the moderator. Needless to say, I'm cancelling membership.
I really didn't see where anything more was covered than what's covered here at the various RC forums.
Jim
Post 10 made on Friday January 31, 2003 at 11:29
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I went to Circuit City last week with my Producer 7 and looked for the video 7 code. Did not find one, so I guess there just isn't a discrete code for it yet. I also joined the yahoo group and my email filled up before I could get back to it, so I cancelled immediately.
Post 11 made on Friday January 31, 2003 at 11:44
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When you join a Yahoo group, such as JP1, there is an option whether you want you get messages by email or only via the web interface. You can also change that at any time after joining. I suggest you try the JP1 group again andjust be careful to select the no email option.

As Jim noted for that other group, the moderator of a group has the ability to override your "no email" decision for certain messages and it is normal for the moderator to force a few introductory messages that way one time when you join. Jim noted that the moderator of the sonyhs10 group abused that ability and sent too many and inappropriate introductory messages. The moderator of JP1 did not abuse that.

BTW, the pronto code shown for video7 was a signal you couldn't generate with your Producer 7 without JP1, so why do you "guess there isn't a discrete code for it yet", when someone already reported one and you ran a test which wouldn't have found it assuming they are correct?
Post 12 made on Friday January 31, 2003 at 16:48
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johnsfine-geez, gimme a break. The writer said the website doesn't have the code for video 7. That doesn't mean there couldn't be one somewhere, so I searched again. I do a lot of postings in the AV3000/2100 forum, and expound the virtues of simple discrete codes to anyone that will listen. I dont understand jp1 or pronto codes, and the people I am trying to teach about discrete codes certainly don't, so I am trying to stay within the OFA/RS discrete code format. For most of us, the OFA/RS discrete codes are enough, and that is what I am trying to inform people of.
Post 13 made on Friday January 31, 2003 at 20:55
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Ron's right, He's been pounding buying ueic remotes to Sony 3000 owners pretty hard. I could just see the look on their faces when they read that their mega$$ remote needed a cheap teacher to be worth a dang. Even saw a link to rob's site. He's a pretty prolific poster too.

Ron, a suggestion, since you're so heavy into the sony forum, wouldn't it be a good idea for at least one strong member there to be at least mildly proficient with JP-1 to help the others? It might be easier to sell to the other people there if you were at least half familiar with the jargon, what's possible, what's not, where to go, how to ask questions, etc. The fix isn't just go out and get a ueic remote. First you need a working setup code. from there you can check the advance code lists, or do the hard-knocks search procedure, and there's still no guarantee that discretes exists, nor that they would be on a likely setup code. I've seen several where on was on one setup code, and discrete off was on yet another.

Jim
Post 14 made on Friday January 31, 2003 at 21:41
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James. I am learning about jp1 in the hifi-remote jp1 site, and also the Sony codes. Correct me if I am wrong, but jp1 is really only necessary to correct the inflexibility of the UEIC remotes. My URC8800 was expensive and not very adaptable, and if I was still using it I would probably go the jp1 route. Not all people like the big and bulky Sony remotes, but I love my AV3000, especially with the discrete codes making it work better. I try and keep it simple because the people I try and help only want a few discrete codes for their AV2100/3000 to make their lives easier, virtually all of which are readily available in the RS&OFA Universal Remotes site, and are willing to spend the extra $15 to achieve their goals. So, I will try and keep it uncomplicated for the AV2100/3000 Forum, and leave the higher level stuff to this forum.

This message was edited by Ron Aronson on 01/31/03 22:52.
Post 15 made on Saturday February 1, 2003 at 08:39
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On 01/31/03 21:41, Ron Aronson said...
James. I am learning about jp1 in the hifi-remote
jp1 site, and also the Sony codes. Correct me
if I am wrong, but jp1 is really only necessary
to correct the inflexibility of the UEIC remotes.

Actually, with the ability to use advanced codes, the ueic remote is already pretty flexible. We prefer to think of JP-1 as a means to tap the full potential of the remotes. The cable is the only added expense, and many knock that down to 0 by using old discarded computer parts. Otherwise, a kit can be had for 10.00, delivered, or 18-20 for one prebuilt, tested and delivered. With your sony's, to tap their full potential you require the ueic remote (15-70), and may also require the cable as well.

My URC8800 was expensive and not very adaptable,
and if I was still using it I would probably go
the jp1 route. Not all people like the big and
bulky Sony remotes, but I love my AV3000, especially
with the discrete codes making it work better.
I try and keep it simple because the people I
try and help only want a few discrete codes for
their AV2100/3000 to make their lives easier,
virtually all of which are readily available in
the RS&OFA Universal Remotes site, and are willing
to spend the extra $15 to achieve their goals.
So, I will try and keep it uncomplicated for
the AV2100/3000 Forum, and leave the higher level
stuff to this forum.

FWIW, your 8800 is JP-1capable, and would be able to give you any discrete out there, should it exist. Not all do, that's not a condemnation of any remote, it's a condemnation of the mfr's that don't allow for them in the firmware of their products.

Jim
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