I just purchased the RS 15-2116 remote. I really like this remote aside from the dismal memory capacity. My preamp is not supported so I have to learn all the buttons manually. The problem is that I can't learn them all due to the memory capacity. I managed to make some compromises in the buttons I need/use but I still need to learn just a few more.

The problem is that I can't find a way to delete learned buttons individually. I tried the IR delete way but it does not reset any learned buttons on a device. I have to do a reset and erase everything. Right now, I just need to learn 2-3 more buttons. Is there an easy way to free up a little more memory? Can I delete some of the store ir code sets to accomplish this? I know a lot of people here talk about JP1 but I'm not that technically savy so I am trying to avoid that.

I guess for 30 bucks I can't really complain. Thanks in advance for any advice.

It seems the only thing to do with this piece of junk is to get the JP1 setup and painfully program it in the computer. Crap

Actually, it is easier to program it using JP1 than doing it manually.

What is the preamp that is not supported? Someone might have some ideas, if you provide a bit more information.

I have an Outlaw 950 preamp. I searched the forum and found that someone created a file for it but I have to go through the JP1 route. All the rest of my equipment is covered by the ir codes on the 2116.

Can you recommend any other remote with the same amount of keys but with more learning memory capacity? Preferrably in the less than $50 range. I dont need anything fancy, I just need it to be able to learn more than just 20-30 buttons. Thanks.

I'm sure the 15-2116 has a command to delete an individual learned signal. I don't have a 2116, so I'm not sure how that command works. If you describe the steps you tried for deleting an individial signal, someone will probably spot the error.

None of the other remotes covered by this forum have more learned signal memory (possibly, the European Kameleon does, we're not sure yet). Outside the remotes covered by this forum, there are several with more learned signal memory. I haven't heard of one for under $50, but that might exist.

I think i found a solution to my problem from searching/reading Robman's previous posts. My error is that I am using up valuable learning space by using the learning to add TV volume/power to the VCR and CABLE devices.

I guess i can use the keymove or volume lock to free up the space so I can use it to learn keys. Sorry guys, I am not up to speed with this remote yet. I have to learn and try the keymove function when I get home. Thanks for the responses.

I'm constantly amazed at how reluctant people are to try out JP1.

However, you might try the Sony VL900, which is reviewed here: [Link: remotecentral.com]
I don't know that it supports the Outlaw 950, but it is supposed to have enough memory to be able to learn on every button in every mode. Never tried it myself.

I was initially real reluctant to try JP1 because I can't solder and I was too cheap to pay $20 for a cable to customize my $19 remote.

It's no harder to learn to use the JP1 software than to learn all the steps of programming these remotes without JP1. Once you learn the JP1 method, it much easier to use than the non JP1 method (even aside from letting you do things you couldn't otherwise do).

I looked at that vl900 link. It has too few buttons for any serious remote user. How could you want to spend over $50 for that rather than spend under $50 for an 8811 and JP1 cable together?

Same here gfb107. I am honestly reluctant for the following reasons:
1. I dont want to spend another $20 just to learn 2-3 more buttons.

2. I dont know how to solder and am too impatient to wait a few days to get the jp1 cable.

3. If do get it, it just means I have to spend more time learning the application again just to add 2-3 more buttons. I am not computer savy.

I don't plan to add to my system for a while so all this trouble to add 2 functions one time. I love the 2116 because of the number of buttons and the price of course. A little bit more memory and it would have been perfect for us regular consumers.

I've tried many, many of the OFA remotes and the 15-2116 is, by far, the best that I've used, hardly "crap". The IR "spread" is superb. I can point it anywhere in the room and still control everything (This with my TV is front and all of the components in the rear). The button layout is superior (agree that this is very subjective), I can program startup macros on the device buttons and the power button without using "shift" and it's ready for JP1.

As an aside, if you're not going to build new devices IR311 is easier than setting up the remote with learning. You can learn IR311 within 30 minutes and, after that, you'll never go back to the "old" way of setup. And, as a bonus, you'll have plenty of memory for anything you want to do with the remote.

Mine is setup for DirecTV, cable, DVD, VCR, laserdisk, Sony receiver, and CD. The Sony soundfields were, as always, a problem and I did have to build a new device using Rob's excellent DSP protocol. I revised it to suit my taste and it works great! In addition, I've still got over half of the memory left.

The point is that, with the purchase of a $15 cable (or build it yourself as I did for under $5) you can truly customize the 2116 to do nearly anything.

I think we can safely ignore posts from Super Dog, he developed some sort of attitude problem because his remote wouldn't do what he wanted without him putting in a bit of effort.

See what I mean here...
[Link: remotecentral.com]
[Link: remotecentral.com]

Rob

Super Dog's review in the "users reviews", sure took a whole star away from the rating. He used the name "super man" then.