Hi There!
I have searched the forums and I can't seem to figure out how exactly to understand the advanced codes and how you're supposed to decode the information contained here: [Link: anycities.com]
I understand how to enter the three digit code in the keymove feature, but I don't understand how to pick the codes from the table. I have a Sony receiver and I really just need the discrete on and off codes for it. Should I just go JP1? Is that easier? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Spiff

After you find the OBC (what RHM calls "Command Code") in one of RHM's device tables you need to use his tables and instructions at
[Link: anycities.com]
to convert that to a 3 digit EFC.

Unfortunately, his list of OFA setup codes is very incomplete, so you'll probably need to guess between "A" and "B" rather than look it up (that doesn't make it much harder).

If you are still confused, tell us the OFA setup code and the command code(s) you want from RHM's table and someone will tell you the EFCs.

I guess where I'm getting confused is that the table does not list the setup code that works for my receiver. I'm using the 1058 setup code for sony receivers. I've then been using the keymove feature to plug in the advanced codes, but I'm just taking a guess at what those codes are. When I look up the feature that I want to use (Discrete On and Off) in the device tables, I come up with the numbers 46 and 47. I've tried to use the advanced codes listed in the efc table (113, 109, 105, 101) under these two numbers, but they don't work. I'm sure I'm missing a very simple point here; I'm usually quite good at things like this :)

Sorry, I should have guessed you were using 1058. 1058 is a mini-combo code; It can't use advanced codes without JP1.

I think the 15-2116 has a setup code TAPE/0243 whose 'A' device is Sony device 16. You can use that for key moves for Sony device 16.

The trick is knowing that you can use a setup code for key moves, even if you don't leave that setup code on any device key.

1) Change the device type to TAPE (if necessary) on some device key (preferably the device key you want for your receiver).

2) Change the setup code to 0243.

3) Define all the key moves that you need based on Sony device 16.

4) Change the device type and setup code of the device key back to what you really want them to be. The key moves based on TAPE/0243 are retained even though the device key is no longer TAPE/0243.

Pure Brilliance!

Works like a charm; I'll keep playing with it.
There's a lot of stuff going on with these advanced codes. I'll try not to be too hard on myself since this is something not totally apparent. But your solution works very well and I appreciate it. I've started playing around with JP1 and I made a cable last night. I can't even get my test to go right. I keep getting a "priveleged instruction" message. Anyway, I can post in yahoo for that. Thanks again!

With JP1 you don't need all that complication of switching the device type back and forth. You can define TAPE/0243 key moves for your receiver device key directly. You also could define 1058 two-byte key moves. For Sony dev 16 that would just waste space vs. using TAPE/0243, but if you have functions with other Sony dev numbers the two byte key moves might be best.

The "priveleged instruction" message is because IR.EXE requires administrator priveledges on some versions of Windows.

I use XP home and I have two administrators: myself and my wife. I looked around in the forums and stuff and some of them said it did something funky with my registry. Do you think this is true? I'm not even sure that my cable is working correctly, so I'll try it later and see what happens. BTW, when your JP1 cable is plugged into the remote, should you be able to turn the remote on?. One way, you can turn it on and if I flip it, the unit won't turn on. Anyway, I let me know if I should just go over to Yahoo and post this. I know that's where this type of talk is preferred.

I have a Sony Receiver STR-DE885 and a RS 15-2116 remote, and I am using code 1058 for it. Everything that I want works fine with it after switching the receiver to AV1 mode,... except 1 button (of course).

The channel digits on the 15-2116 control the audio inputs for the receiver, but none of them will switch to DVD/LD mode, which is the main one I need.

I was reading above about perhaps 'key moving' the correct key from the Tape/0243 deivce, but the 15-2116 will not let me select anything with that code (Is it because don't have a Tape player?). Even if I could, how would I know which key it was?

Any advice would be appreciated, and forgive me if I am missing the obvious. I've been looking around and feel I am close. Thanks.

One more thing, I already tried 'Learning' the key, but for some reason it will not accept.

This message was edited by wookiecrisp on 04/15/03 01:29.

On RHM's page:
[Link: anycities.com]
you can see that the OBC for DVD/LD is 107.

On RHM's page:
[Link: anycities.com]
you can see that the EFC for 107 for the A device is 124.

I can't tell if you're saying that you don't know how to program a device key to TAPE/0243. I don't have a 2116 nor a 2116 manual, but I think that is something you could find in the manual (or maybe someone with a 2116 will reply here).

The instructions for defining a key move (on an LCD remote such as 2116) may be much less clear in the manual, but they've been posted here at RC several times and shouldn't be too hard to get with a search.

My JP1 cable works, and I have been able to turn the remote on with the cable plugged in. I have a 2117 which should be the same.

I can use my 2117 with the jp1 connected. But with my 2116, it will not work while the jp1 is connected.

The reset signal in the JP1 cable seems to be the most sensitive to minor voltage incompatibilities. Fortunately, it is the least important signal.

If you can upload and download, but the remote doesn't work until the cable is disconnected, you have a voltage incompatibility on the reset signal.

Usually you can fix it by using different batteries in the remote. Maybe it needs new batteries to work. Maybe it needs very low batteries to work. (Or maybe it won't work). Most people with this problem find it easier to just disconnect the cable before testing the upload.

In your case, it is very unlikely to be a difference between your 2117 and your 2116, so that means it almost has to be the difference between the batteries in your 2117 and those in the 2116. Swap the batteries and prove that the behavior follows the batteries rather than the remote.

Was this in reply to my post?

You are correct about the batteries! I switched them and the 2117 would not work while connected. While the 2116 would.
When it worked, it had a new set of Energizer Max. The others are new RS alkaline.


This message was edited by Dixon Butz on 04/15/03 19:16.