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programming the RS 2116 for sony 4ES receiver??
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Post 1 made on Thursday December 5, 2002 at 07:03
hary
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Hi Guys,

OP | Post 2 made on Thursday December 5, 2002 at 07:06
hary
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Sorry, wrong key!

What I was trying to say was that I had tried to program my new RS 2116 for sony 4ES receiver by using device code 1058 but it only does the basic functions.

I also tried to follow the advanced code at:
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but it does not seem to work either.

Please help!

Hary
Post 3 made on Thursday December 5, 2002 at 11:33
jamesgammel
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You need to use JP-1 to program in keymoves with combo codes, like 1058.
Jim
Post 4 made on Thursday December 5, 2002 at 12:26
hradak
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Thanks James.

I was trying to avoid that... are you sure that's the only way to do it?



Post 5 made on Thursday December 5, 2002 at 14:34
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breakdown the 1058 combo code to the 2 or more old device codes that would work everything on your receiver, but then you use up 2 or more device buttons to work all the functions. AT LEAST, there would be an amp code, like maybe 0158, and a "tuner" code, and maybe another one for other functions (surround fields, etc.) For me, that would be the worse alternative.
For some reason you're looking at JP-1 like it's a plague, when in fact, it's a god-send. You've got a really nice remote, and you can make it a super-remote with JP-1, and you wouldn't even have to do any soldering. Oh well, your choice.
Post 6 made on Thursday December 5, 2002 at 17:19
hradak
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well, let me rephrase that: I am trying to gain some time.

I already tried 0158 and it did not work.

Looks like I don't have a choice anyway. Thanks!
Post 7 made on Friday December 6, 2002 at 09:45
The Robman
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On 12/05/02 12:26.42, hradak said...
Thanks James.

I was trying to avoid that... are you sure that's
the only way to do it?

Posts like this always confuse me. If you know there's a much better way to program your remote, that will let you do what you are trying to do, why are you wasting so much time trying to do it the hard way?
Rob.
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Post 8 made on Friday December 6, 2002 at 09:54
jamesgammel
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Rob,

Guess it's like bullfighting; To kill the bull, it's easier just to use a .458Win Mag. However, to use just a sword is more of a challenge.;)(of course the drawback is you have a higher likelihood of gettin your ass killed).
Jim
Post 9 made on Friday December 6, 2002 at 10:31
hradak
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Rob,

When I buy something, I usually don't expect to invest more and wait more time (shipping) to achieve what I'm trying to do.

Why is it so difficult to understand?
Post 10 made on Friday December 6, 2002 at 19:22
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Problem: the remote doesn't do exactly what I want it to do.

Solution #1: get a JP1 cable which you can make for next to nothing or buy it ready made for under $20, net result for under $50 you have a PC programmable remote. To buy a PC programable remote normally you would need to spend several hundreds of dollars!

With this solution you can easily make the remote do whatever you want it to do, in a very short period of time.

Solution #2: Ignore the easy solution posted above and spend many hours, maybe days or weeks searching to find a harder solution.

So hey, if #2 is the one for you, knock yourself out, but understand that there are a dedicated few spending many hours making things easier for the masses who just wanna program their remote and go. The services is free, use it or don't, the choice is yours.
Rob.
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Post 11 made on Tuesday December 10, 2002 at 17:27
hradak
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Thanks Rob.

I have ordered the JP-1 cable. where do I go from there? I guess it would come with a software, but I don't understand how it would pick up the sony ES receiver codes easier than when I tried to punch them in.

Hary
Post 12 made on Tuesday December 10, 2002 at 19:51
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The problem with the 1058 code is that it is a combo code, which means you can't program the buttons manually using advanced codes. In the old days, you would mix and match codes from the 01158, 0159 and 0010 codes to get all the buttons programmed.

With JP1 you can learn each button from your Sony remote and then download the 15-2116's memory, then the JP1 software (IR.exe) will tell you what the codes for those buttons really are. You can then use this info to build a new upgrade which has all the buttons mappped out exactly how you want them. Plus, if you need to use key moves to program some additional buttons, you can do this using JP1.

But, before you go to all that trouble, chances are good that someone has already created an upgrade that you can use, just check the file section.

Rob
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Post 13 made on Tuesday December 10, 2002 at 19:53
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Go to the yahoo JP-1 group, and "sign up". Then go to FILES>Tools, and download IR3.10a, and KM 7.00beta7(?)

You'll need Windows and excel loaded on your machine. Read the several "readme's" in both programs.

Jim
Post 14 made on Tuesday December 10, 2002 at 20:47
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hradak,

You can get your remote to respond to the 1058 code for basic commands: on, off, selecting the input mode, etc. Keep in mind, the commands will be limited.

To do this, ensure your STR-DA4ES is in "AV1" mode. The receiver ships pre-set to "AV2" which is causing some of your issues.
Post 15 made on Monday December 16, 2002 at 22:11
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If 1058 works, the receiver is already in AV1 mode. The problem is that the 1058 code won't take advanced codes. You have to use 0158, which isn't in the 2116. But--there are codes in the 2116 that will take advanced codes, specifically rcvr/0159 and cass/0243, that will control the receiver. You can use all the 0159 codes, you can get them from my website or from Rob's. Cass/0243 covers device 16, you can use this to get commands from device 16 where you want them. Just use the "A" EFCs from my website with that device to get the device 16 commands (which includes the inputs).

Of course, it would be a lot easier to use JP1, especially if you want device 144 codes, JP1 is the only way to get those. You might as well use JP1 now, but for others with Sony receivers and a 2116 this will help.

Current Sony receivers only use 16, 13 and 144 in AV1 mode and 48, 45 and 176 in AV2, along with the DSP format commands.
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