Kudos on an outstanding and useful website!

I'm getting ready to use some advanced codes on the www.starbase314 website to finish the programming of my RS 15-1994, but I'm confused about some of the data. Specifically, on some devices (e.g., Panasonic DVD, device 0490) there's a section with basically three columns: the advanced code, a "DESCRIPTION" in capital letters, and a "description" in lower case letters. What do these represent? The confusion comes when there are three separate "DESCRIPTIONS" for the same advanced code and "description". And sometimes even the "description"s vary.

For example, for advanced code 702 on the Panasonic DVD (device 0490), the following is listed:

702 DOWN............Menu Down
702 MUTE............Menu Down
702 VOLUME DOWN.....Menu Down
702 MUTE............Volume Down
702 DOWN............Volume Down
702 VOLUME DOWN.....Volume Down

When I assign this code (702) to a button, what will happen? What's the difference between the "DESCRIPTION" and the "description?" I've scoured these forums (fora?) for some explanation, alas to no avail. Any ideas?

Thanks

The lists include codes that are already assigned to some buttons. On most remotes there is a MUTE, a VOLUME DOWN, and sometime a DOWN curser among a directional cluster of buttons. So when it says: "702 MUTE mute", or something similar, it simply means that the code 702 is assigned to the MUTE button and it makes your device mute.

You also need to realize that the codes are shared across a long line of ONE4ALL remote models, and on some remotes the DOWN function may be mapped to the VOL DOWN button, an so on. in this case the list may include the same number several times, but for different functions. Realize that although a certain device code seems to work for your device, it also works for a long family of similar devices (earlier and later models from the same manufacturer, typically). A code that selects the LD device for some PIONEER A/V amps may select the DVD device on some others.

What will happen? Just try the code and see. The you'll know. Most lists I've gotten for my devices have had some codes that worked as listed, some that did nothing, and some that worked, but did something completely different than listed or expected.

Consider it an adventure. Enjoy!

Dave

Sleestak, David, et.al:
Ditto's on the Kudo's

In case you didn't know... you don't have to commit any of the codes to a button before you try each one for effect. Simply touch star, then the three digit code and the action will execute when the last key is pressed.

What I found On My Sony DE525 Reciever was that sometimes I had to rapidly do the sequence a couple of times in a row to finally recognize the function, because in the case of a mode key code the first response was somewhat unintelligable, but the second revealed that it was toggling through a menu of modes. The first one was just a blinking "A" That turned out to be an indexing function.

I went through the 255 combinations twice, and still managed to miss functions because some would have no effect unless I other "mode" settings were currently activated for the submenu code to have effect. My Yamaha certainly wasn't that complicated.

The search is quite a challenge, and if it weren't for a recent post from another Sony owner recently, I would never have found functions from my one dimentional search methodalogy.

This sony device that from my first search appeared to be about half supported, very likely is fully supported, it's that I'm not smart enough to crack the last 10% of the code.

Now, a question for David B, (or whosoever will):

You elsewhere have detailed how to move the action of a key from one device to another device with the 994 command, which I have done successfully, but here's a problem I need help with;

My Sony had functions distributed between two device codes 0158 and 0159. In trying to move functions from 0159 buttons to 0158, I can't seem to move any function that was created using extracted advanced codes over to the 0158 side, as I could ones that were directly assigned when 0159 was programmed to my reassigned "dvd/ld to reciever" device key.

I even tried entering the 'setup'+function code in the sequence, in place of the key the desired function was programmed to.

Question #1
What sequence would you use David?

Question #2
Where is the definitive repository of the only true and correct key sequences for all these wonderful tweaks you and others have created here?
I have been mislead by well meaning but inacurrate or incomplete instructions, and I'm not as intuitive as most of you, who can probably actually remember what it was you did when something actually went right.

And before I sign off, something wierd happened I'd like explained.

One of the key moves I made from 0159 to 0158 did a different function once it was moved. How does that happen?

I am ever-so-close to having two entire home theater systems, of mostly unmatched components, and the infamous dishplayer set up on C7's with almost every function on the same key's so my loving wife can use each system without tech support.

Every Advanced code I aquire in this quest frees up yet another previously learned key to be reassigned to a more appropiate unsupported function... but then there is this latent fear that, if and when that day of remote control perfection arrives... I won't know what to do with myself! No more adventure?!

Oh but then there is after all... X-10.

All is well.

Wayne

Ps. My wife laughs at me because I really don't like to watch TV.

- "My Sony had functions distributed between two device codes 0158 and 0159. In trying to move functions from 0159 buttons to 0158, I can't seem to move any function that was created using extracted advanced codes over to the 0158 side, as I could ones that were directly assigned when 0159 was programmed to my reassigned "dvd/ld to reciever" device key.

I even tried entering the 'setup'+function code in the sequence, in place of the key the desired function was programmed to.

What sequence would you use David? " -

I don't think there could be any other option. If you use :

DEV (where your 0158 code is)
SETUP **
994
DEV (where your 0159 code is)
Button (that the advanced 159 code is programmed to)
Button or SETUP + button (where you want the command to be on your 158 device)

That should do it. If it doesn't, then it may be impossible to do. I have personally never tried moving an advanced code from one device to another, then deleting the original device.
The only way I know most things is if I've done it myself. Sorry.

- "Where is the definitive repository of the only true and correct key sequences for all these wonderful tweaks you and others have created here?" -


As far as I'm concerned, the best place is going to be Gerald Pinzone's FAQ if he keeps up the excellent work he's done so far. I'm almost convinced that even the folks at ONEforALL didn't know the tweaking potential of their Cinema and radio shack line when they created them. The software inside these remotes seems to be "moving" from generation to generation, with little changes. I call it "OLD CODE". The original programmer has probably left the company, died, retired, or moved into management. Those that took over never really rewrote the code, they just modified it with each new remote to ensure it performed "at least" those functions specified by the ordering company. This scenario follows well the evidence you find when reading the manuals that come with each remote, then comparing the listed programmability with the actual we've discovered here. Personally, I'm delighted there were surprises to find in my Cinema7. I'm VERY delighted, though, that the WWW existed and was a place I could find hints as to what it's potential was. Had it not been for this site and a few others, I'd have been one of the thousands of remote purchasers who return the remote when they can't get it to do what they want.

- "One of the key moves I made from 0159 to 0158 did a different function once it was moved. How does that happen?" -

This happens to me when what I thought I did wasn't what I actually did. The solution? Try it again and again. If it happens thrice in a row, and you're SURE of what buttons you pressed, then write it all down. You've discovered a NEW FEATURE!!!

Dave ;-)

Thank's David,

It may be in the sequence still, your reply itself has at least one sequence not tried.

Wayne

David, Can you tell me where to find Gerald Pinzone's FAQ? I did a search but got no hits.
Thanks

My FAQ is at [Link: ampersand.hypermart.net]

BTW, version 1.07 just came out yesterday. Much more Netscape friendly!