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Just bought an 8090rf...can't ESC from setup
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Post 1 made on Wednesday January 12, 2000 at 14:41
Mike
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I just bought an 8090 rf unit and I can't get out of the menu mode by hitting the "ESC" key after inputing a code that doesn't work. I can't get back to my "device and date" screen.

I have a marantz sr-5000 A/V receiver that I was able to program ok but the code 503 doesn't work for the Onkyo DVC-600 6-disk DVD Player. Any other codes I can try or should I pursue getting a 9800 model or something else entirely? I really like the layout of the all for one.

Excellent Site Dan...I've already spent two days poking around. Wish I saw the site before I made the purchases.

Thanks...
OP | Post 2 made on Wednesday January 12, 2000 at 15:37
Mike
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Could someone explain what a discrete code is vs. an advanced code?
OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday January 12, 2000 at 17:30
David B.
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Discrete codes:

Most devices have a power TOGGLE button on the remote and on the device. One push turns it ON, the next push turns it OFF. Many devices will respond to IR commands that ONLY turn it ON or ONLY turn it OFF. These are some of the discrete codes, but not all. Just as most TVS with multiple inputs let you toggle between TUNER, VIDEO1, VIDEO2, and possibly VIDEO3 inputs, there might be IR codes out there that will let you discretely jump right to VIDEO2 (or any input mode) without toggling thru the sequence.

Advanced Codes:

On oneforall remotes, and possibly some other brands, each device code to set up the remote for your particular TV, VCR, or other device map generally only the basic functions to certain keys on the remote. If you know other functions that you wish the universal remote to have, it is likely that they can be programmed onto unused keys on the remote if you know the "advanced" code for each function. The default device code for my JVC VCR did not have the EJECT function programmed to any key on my universal remote. I found the advanced code for EJECT on a list at www.starbase13.com, and using a programming sequence found in my manual, programmed it to work when I press the SETUP and then the STOP button on the remote.

Hope you aren't more confused than before you read my reply. ;-)

Dave
OP | Post 4 made on Wednesday January 12, 2000 at 18:28
Mike
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thanks dave..

p.s. I liked your post on "You might be a home theater nut if..."
OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday January 12, 2000 at 20:25
Ingenious
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(NOTE: I wrote this earlier, but I had net
trouble which prevented me from sending it until
now. Despite the fact that the question has
already been answered, I'm sending this anyway.
BTW, it's www.starbase314.com, not 13.)

Mike,

>Could someone explain what a discrete code is
>vs. an advanced code?

When you press a button on any remote control, it
sends a number, identifying that button, to the
device it is supposed to control. It sends this
in an infra-red protocol specific to the device
in question.

An advanced code is a way of telling your OFA
remote to send a specific number to the device,
in the device's own protocol. You could send the
number for play, or you could send the number for
power on/off, or any other number.

On many devices there are functions which can be
activated this way which do NOT appear on the
original remote which came with the device. For
instance, most original device remotes have a
power on/off button, but almost none have
seperate power on and power off buttons, yet many
devices can be told to either power on OR power
off with advanced codes. Such codes are called
discrete power on and discrete power off codes.

Discrete codes, be they for power or input
selection or something else, are useful when
creating macros. For instance, using discrete
power codes, one can make a macro that turns off
all the devices in their home theater setup.
Without discrete power off codes, that same macro
would turn off the devices that were on, and,
unfortunately, turn on the ones that were already
off, requiring the user to turn those devices off
again, negating the usefulness of a power off
macro. Hence the usefulness of discrete codes.

Does this clear things up for you?

-=Ingenious=-
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday January 13, 2000 at 09:46
Mike
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Thanks Ingenious!

So an advanced code is one that already is present on the original and is the code # specificically, say for "Mute".

A discrete code is one that only the manufacturer knows about and they probably use it for troubleshooting or testing but it is still good to have, like you say, for macros or whatever.

BTW, I realized after that I have a URC-9800.
My Bad...

I think I have a bad ESC key.

Thank you for all your support.
OP | Post 7 made on Thursday January 13, 2000 at 14:44
Mac
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I fixed the ESC key by removing the cover and cleaning the contacts. I posted the full procedure at thread 9800-HELP by chris.
OP | Post 8 made on Thursday January 13, 2000 at 16:32
Ingenious
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Mike,

I tried to be clear, but it
seems I was not. A discrete
code is a subcategory of
advanced codes, which is to say
that all discrete codes are
advanced codes, but not all
advanced codes are discrete
codes.

What seperates a discrete
advanced code from a
non-discrete advanced code is
that a discrete code selects a
specific device state, such that
it does nothing if the device is
already in that state.

A non-discrete code will cycle
through two or more states, such
that the device state will
always change in some way when
the code is recieved.

Does this clarify matters?

-=Ingenious=-
OP | Post 9 made on Thursday January 13, 2000 at 17:00
Mac
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Ingenious-

I think I got it.
Discrete codes are very specific "one-liners" if you will. "I want DVD input on my AMP" whereas an advanced code might be "input select" on my AMP and it might already be on DVD and will toggle it to the next input regardless.

Thanks
Mac


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