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HELP!!!! VCR A/B CODES FOR MITSUBISHI VCR
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Post 1 made on Saturday January 8, 2000 at 22:34
Paul E. Fox, II
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Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have two Mitsubishi HS-U55 VCRs in my bedroom and I want to be able to program my Cinema7 to control both of them, hopefully using a button similar to the VCR A and VCR B buttons on my original remote, but I can't seem to locate the proper codes for either of these buttons. My Cinema7 is the older, non-learning model and I really don't want to buy another one just for the bedroom (I already have a Pronto for the Living Room). Does anyone know the proper codes for these buttons?

Also, I've already been to Starbase 314 and tried OFAs advanced code request with no luck. I would even program a whole new device key if I could figure out how to make my VCR that is the "B" VCR work that way.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

pap
OP | Post 2 made on Sunday January 9, 2000 at 00:59
Ingenous
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Do you have evidence indicating that the original
remote actually sends out a signal when you press
VCR A or VCR B? It's much more likely that the
VCR A and VCR B buttons switch modes of the
REMOTE, not the console. To prove this to
yourself, start by pressing VCR A on the original
remote, and then completely covering the IR
emitter of the remote, and pressing VCR B. If,
after doing this, you find the remote is
controlling VCR B, then you know the REMOTE
switches modes, whereas if you find it is
controlling VCR A then you'll know the CONSOLE
switches modes, which is extremely unlikely.

Assuming the former scenario is what transpires,
which I feel is a very safe assumption, there can
be no advanced codes for VCR A and VCR B. What
you need are two DEVICE codes, one for VCR A and
one for VCR B.

Assuming you can find two such codes, I'd suggest
putting one on the VCR button, and one on the
DVD/LD button, assuming you don't have a DVD or
LD already using it.

-=Ingenious=-
OP | Post 3 made on Sunday January 9, 2000 at 10:01
Paul E. Fox, II
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This is exactly what I thought happened, but all I'm asking if any other Mitsubishi owners have found a workaround for this, either with a code or something else.

By the way, my Mitsubishi is currently working under the 0043 code, if that helps anyone in any way.

pap
OP | Post 4 made on Sunday January 9, 2000 at 12:32
David B.
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pap,

It may be time to bite the bullet and buy a learning Cinema.

You know that code 043 works your mitsubishi "A" mode VCR. I'd suggest that you make sure your second VCR is in "B" mode and try the code search method as described in your cinema manual. If there's a device code in there to work a Mitsubishi in "B" mode then that should find it.

Another strategy for finding device codes is to try codes listed in the manual but for other manufacturer's VCRs. Again, make sure your second VCR is in "B" mode. My Cinema7 manual lists codes 0043, 0048, and 0067 for Mitsubishi VCRs. Look at any other maker's list that includes 043 OR 048 OR 067 and try all the other codes listed with those maker's VCRs. I have a Go video VCR that didn't work with any codes listed for Go Video VCRs. I found a Samsung code that worked using this method. As it turns out, early Go-Video VCRs were made by samsung.

If all this fails, then get a Cinema7 learning (7800) model. I've seen them as low as $16.50 at Best Buy, and with the learning feature you can teach a second device all the basic codes to run your "B" mode VCR using the original remote.

Good luck,

Dave
OP | Post 5 made on Sunday January 9, 2000 at 16:28
Ingenious
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Even without the learning feature, it might still
be possible to make the Cinema 7 control VCR B,
but it would require some work on your part,
since you have the VCR, and a bit of luck as
well. You'd need to find a device code (any
device code for any kind of device) it which some
button controls some function of VCR B, even if
it's the wrong function for that button. This is
a long slow version of the code search method,
and not for the impatient, but if you find one
you can then do an exhaustive search for advanced
codes under than device code, map out which codes
do what, and then use the 994 code, over and
over, to assign the various functions you care
about the the correct buttons. To get most of
the VCR functions will probably take about half
your remote's macro/key mover memory.

-=Ingenious=-

P.S. I know this can work. I have a thoroughly
unsupported stereo/surround sound decoder, and I
was able to duplicate every function on the
oriinal remote (and then some) without using
learning functions.
OP | Post 6 made on Monday January 10, 2000 at 02:20
Ingenious
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Mr. Fox,

>By the way, my Mitsubishi is currently working
>under the 0043 code, if that helps anyone in any
>way.

It may help me to help you. I'm assuming that
you mean that VCR device code 0043 controls VCR
A. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I have just done a fair ammount of research on
your behalf, and have come up with only two
possibilities which seem at all likely to work.
I am operating under the assumption that two
entirely different protocols would not be used to
control VCR A and VCR B, given that they are in
fact the same model, but with slightly different
configurations.

Based on this assumption, I have done an
exhaustive search of EVERY device code for EVERY
device category, i.e. TV, VCR, CBL/SAT, DVD/LD,
RCVR, CD, and AUX, in hope of finding any and all
device codes which select a similar IR protocol.

I have found TWO, and only two, possibilities. I
will assume that you are familiar with the use of
the 992 device key re-assignment code. If you
are not, please consult your manual, or the
directions found here:

[Link: hudsonag.com]

The two codes I found which MIGHT be able to
control VCR B are TV device code 0150, and DVD/LD
device code 0521

IMPORTANT: these are NOT VCR device codes. If
you try them as such, and they do nothing, it
will prove nothing.

Put another way, you must make sure that whatever
device key you assign 0150 to for trial purposes
is already configured via 992 as a TV device, and
similarly, you must make sure that the key to
which you assign 0521 is already configured as a
DVD/LD device.

For each of these two codes, try the POWER
button, and see if it will control your VCR B, or
whichever VCR it is that you have thus far been
unable to control.

Once you try these, please get back to me as soon
as possible, as I am eager to know if either one
works.

-=Ingenious=-
OP | Post 7 made on Monday January 10, 2000 at 20:21
Paul E. Fox, II
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Thanks a lot and I'll let you know as soon as I get any results at all either negative or positive.

pap
OP | Post 8 made on Monday January 10, 2000 at 20:40
Paul E. Fox, II
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Well Ingenious, it didn't work. I think I even tried searching for the code and it didn't work so I guess I'm stuck. Man, I hate to buy ANOTHER freaking remote just to operate two VCRs!!!

Thanks for all the help so far and if you have any other ideas, let me know.

pap
OP | Post 9 made on Monday January 10, 2000 at 21:55
Paul B
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I had to control my two JVC vcrs. I found that when the second vcr was set to receive 'B' codes it responded to a different device #.

VCR with 'A' codes responded to device code 0067 and the second VCR with 'B' codes responded to device code 0041 (I think).

Have you tried other device codes for your second VCR?

Paul B
OP | Post 10 made on Monday January 10, 2000 at 22:05
Ingenious
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Well, if neither of those worked, then I think I
can guarantee, given my research, that no other
device code will work, so your only option would
seem to be a remote with a learning ability.

The remote SHOULD be able to send the proper
codes in the proper protocol. It's 99.9% of the
way there. With only a minor redesign of the
operating software in the remote, it would work,
but that is beyond our reach.

There are three elements of an IR code:
A. The transmission protocol.
B. The device identifier (bits that don't change)
C. The button identifier (bits that DO change)

Advanced codes let you choose C, and a device
code combines A and B. If they split the device
codes so that you could independently select A
and B, then you could keep the A from VCR code
0043, and the key mappings from VCR code 0043,
and just change the device identifiers with a new
and different sort of advanced code, it would
make the remote far more versatile.

But I wouldn't hold my breath.

-=Ingenious=-


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