Post 1 made on Wednesday December 29, 1999 at 00:14
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After finally growing disgusted with the idea of getting a mid-range Sony universal remote, despite their otherwise fine design, due simply to the fact that they can operate the menu on a Sony VCR, but NOT any other kind (or so their web site seems to indicate), I got a Cinema 7 IQ this Christmas, and am quite please with its versatility.
After much fiddling, I have discovered a trick which I do not believe I have seen referenced anywhere else...and I HAVE looked. This trick allows one to have at least partial control of far more than the 7 devices it is supposed to control.
Here is a simple example of how to have the functionality of two devices programmed onto one device key. Let's assume for the sake of argument that one is a TV, and one is a VCR, and that you want both programmed into the TV device key. Let us further assume that you only need minimal control of the VCR. (play, stop, record, rewind, fast forward, pause, and power).
1. Set the TV button to the TV's device code. 2. Set the VCR button to the VCR's device code. 3. Use the 994 code to move the needed VCR functions to buttons in the TV mode. (for example, put VCR power on shift-power in TV mode with TV*SETUP*_**9*9*4**VCR*POWER*SETUP*POWER**) 4. Here's where the trick comes in: You can configure 6 other devices on the remaining device keys INCLUDING the VCR key. Even if you change the device type (via 992) and device code on the VCR key, the functions you copied to keys in TV mode will still function perfectly.
The method could, in theory, be used to make a power on/off macro for about 36 different devices before running out of memory.
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OP | Post 2 made on Wednesday December 29, 1999 at 08:33
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I discovered with my Cinema7 that in TV mode the VCR keys controlled my DVD by default. I suspect this was intentional by one4all. And guess what? It didn't use ANY programming memory. I DID have to add the DVD's eject and power buttons to get it working to my satisfaction. Anyway, it IS a nice way to extend the remote's usefullness.
As for a macro for 36 devices, I already have one. It uses discrete off codes for 7 Home Theater devices, and one "ALL OFF" X10 command. Since I've got 30 X10 modules or switches around the house, the total is 37.
I only use this macro when leaving the house, as it turns off EVERY Light, fan, X10ed appliance, etc. I have seperate "on" macros for each room and home theater "event" such as watching a DVD movie.
OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday December 29, 1999 at 21:47
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Regarding the VCR keys, in either TV mode or CBL/SAT mode, you should find that the VCR keys control either the DVD/LD device or the VCR device, depending on which one was most recently selected, i.e. if you select VCR mode, then TV mode, the DVD should no longer be controlable until you select DVD mode again.
When you say that it didn't use any programming memory, this is true, but you are not taking into account that it DOES take a device key, whereas my idea does not. Using your method (which I also use, admittedly), you would lose the DVD functionality were you to redefine the DVD/LD key to control some other device, whereas with my trick you would not. Yes, it uses some programming memory, but it allows you to do something you could not do without it.
As for your 37 device macro, it's only sending codes for 8 devices. That's like calling a macro containing a single power on/off code a "100 device power on/off macro" just because there are 100 of the same brand of TV in the room. :)
My point was that...well, let's say you work in a deparment store, and when the store opens, you have to turn all the TVs on, and when you shut down for the night, you have to turn them all off. For each TV device code, you could program it into the VCR key and use 994 to copy its power button to one of the TV mode keys before programming the next device code into the VCR key, etc.
When done, you could create a macro that contained all of these buttons, one by one, making the store's shutdown/startup sequence just a little bit faster/easier.
Of course, one of these codes could always be that "ALL OFF" X10 code you mentioned, if that was desirable. :)
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