hi ,
i have maxed out my memory in my cinema 7 and cannot learn any more keys .. i am trying to map the DVD button to my tivo and then map rest of the tivo keys i have successfully done a few but rest ..i am getting a single long flash , thats why i think its the memory i may be wrong ..now my question is is there a way to get the memory upgraded ?
or is there a code for tivo's so i dont have to learn keys ?
or is there a similar but better ( more memory ) remote there ?

regards,
n

You cannot upgrade the memory on the Cinema 7, but there is a TIVO upgrade. The Cinema 7 has the holes for the JP1 connector, but the pins are not factory installed. You can build a JP1 programming box, add the pins to the remote, upgrade the remote, and forget about the learned codes. (Check the link on Rob's site [Link: hifi-remote.com] for the upgrades to the 15-1994).

One other thing to try is to clear ALL the memory and start over. If you learned one key, then erased it learned another etc. the memory may be fragmented and starting over and learning just the keys you want may give you more room.

Also try to allocate between advanced codes and learning to max out the available memory as each of these has a separate memory area.

Some people have sucees hiting the button on the original remote just momentarily while learning and not holding it down until the cinema 7 flashes. They say this can increase the number of learned keys by up to 50%.

It's a pain in hte rear to erase everything (get the code from hifi-remote.com as I can't rmember it off the top of my head) and start over but could be worth it if you mangage to squeeze a few more keys in.

Jim Cruickshank

hey all..
thanx i tried redoing all the keys .. but same results

regards,
n

I had the same problem when I first got my Cinema7. What solved it was carefully rethinking how I would use the Cinema. By only copying critical commands (instead of every command from the original remote) I could control my devices 95% of the time. That 5% when I needed other commands it was simple enough to get out the original remote(s).

I don't own a TIVO (yet) but know it's not natively in the Cinema7. Learn memory is extremely limited, so the above suggestion to "upgrade" the remote may be your only option. I doubt anyone does this commercially yet (you send in your remote and they upgrade it for you) it is probably worth doing yourself. Otherwise you'll need a Pronto or other much more expensive remote to handle all your equipment.

Good luck,

Dave

I would stongly recommend you look into building the upgrade box that Don mentions, details are at [Link: hifi-remote.com] We have a working TiVo code ready for you to load, and our version supports advanced codes, which the official one doesn't!

If you want to stay with the learning mode, like Dave suggested, is there something you can sacrifice. Before I built my upgrade box I used learning to program my ReplayTV, I sacrificed the number buttons and had enough memory for everything else.

Also, in the last there has been some discussion on what the best learning technique is, should you use quick bursts or do the long hold method. Well, now that we can see how the cod eis stored when you do learning, I can absolutely say that you should use the long hold method as this will give you the most economical use of the memory available.

Rob.
http://www.hifi-remote.com

okay guys .. i think i am going to start on the dark path of solering etc :)
so now i have a few questions before i start

1. on one side the "adaptor" connects to the machine using a parrallel type DB25 connection .. how does it connect to the remote ? may be i missed it but theres no CLEAR way i read which says connect this to that
2. is there a little HOWTO .. i mean the info is all there but a HOWTO is missing ..or i missed it ?
3. so please verify
a) i get all the capacitors etc
b) build the thing
c) get software (?) and codes file (?)
d) connect the build "JP1" to my parrallel port
e) move files to it using software

please let me know .. i am thinking of doing it today .

regards,
n

OK... the 'how to' is probably the combined tales of all of the people who've built their box and posted their experiences in the groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1 forum.

Here's the brief summary -- yes one side of the JP1 box will have a 25 pin parallel port connector, the other side will need a 6 pin header connector (everybody seems to be trimming a 10 pin down to 6 pins). The source of the 10 pin header is frequently a surplus I/O card serial cable with 10 pin ribbon cable and header. Many people are building the box with the solderless method. That is quicker, but probably more fragile than the perfboard (solder) method. Either method will work, just evaluate your soldering skills and the fragility/sturdiness you want.

Open the remote by removing the two screws inside the battery compartment, and carefully pry the top and bottom apart. Add 6 pins into the holes ready for them. Put the remote back together again.

You can find the programs in the Files / Programs area at groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1. The transfer program is in RemoteBeta3.zip. The TIVO codes are in the Files / Device Codes / PVR area.

You will connect the box to the computer, plug the 6 pin header into the remote (watch the pin 1 orientation), run the program IR.exe, download your current configuration from the remote, and save that image just for posterity.

You should probably delete all of the learned TIVO codes so they don't override the TIVO device you're adding.'add' the TIVO device and protocol data (paste it from the downloaded text file into the dialog box) on the Upgrades tab, select the button to use for the TIVO, and upload the modified data back to the remote.

Unplug the remote, go into the TV room and try it. Should be a piece of cake!

thax donald ..



regards,
n

I have been trying to get a few basic Tivo functions on my Cinema 7 and cannot figure out what device type and device code to use. I want the Tivo functions to be on the Satellite button, what device type will I need to set it for? Thanks.