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Post 16 made on Monday September 14, 2009 at 08:52
ibdoomed
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On September 13, 2009 at 20:31, motech said...
the fact that i waited this long for a new product ,
and i was told i can use it as my low end remote on our projects was just wrong.

you cant use two of these in the same home.

they should not have the nevo name on it.
bottom line.

it says on the package by custom installers only.

total bs. its in best buy under another name,
and no CI would ever touch a remote that you cant use twice in one home.
what happens when the client says i like it, lets get another one for my living room.
o, sorry man . .one per home.
we gotta get you a different brand remote or a Q50 for $800.

im talking about RF remotes only ofcourse,
as i dont really care for IR kits . . .

im just insulted that they are branded as nevo
and they expect us to sell and install them.

it shows very little respect for installers when they pull something like that.

I can understand you're frustration.

I don't like them ether but that's just because they have number keys, do people still use those?
Post 17 made on Friday September 18, 2009 at 14:33
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On September 10, 2009 at 10:07, Jimmy Bellagio said...
HA! As if RemoteQuest (aka Dave Darche) never sold a Nevo on Ebay! Cmon now...

Yup, sold ONE, fully programmed at full price. Very different from the remote whores on ebay.
Post 18 made on Friday September 18, 2009 at 19:41
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On September 12, 2009 at 20:21, motech said...
Ok these remotes are total shit.
I hate to say it - but because of this release I have lost all respect for Nevo.

I spent a lot of time with Nevo and installing their remotes on hopes that they would eventually expand their lineup.

They basically made a remote for accoustic research to be soldnin best buy -
and rebranded it with a Nevo logo. It's mainly a best buy remote.

So why is this remote shit?
You can't use two different rf bases when they are in range of eachother.
You can't pair a remote with an rf base - they are not addressable.
So the remte will receive any commands it gets from whatever remote is near it.

It's an insult to put the Nevo name on this remote.they say the next addition to Nevo will be 3.0 software in about a year and nothing else till then.

I officially am giving up on Nevo and any new products.

Looks like I'm leaning towards mx450 for our low end ( with mrf260) and crestron prodigy for our mid end.

Goodbye Nevo and thanks for the ride.

Hate to say "I told you so," but...... This was a key part of my point- that these appear to be run-of-the-mill mass market remotes, and that it seems silly to expect people to pay for custom installation of something like that when they can (literally, it appears) go pick one up at Best Buy.
Post 19 made on Thursday October 1, 2009 at 22:20
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I like their products but I HATE their loose distribution. Any yahoo can buy Nevos now just about anywhere. Their direct dealers are selling sideways to keep their direct pricing. As usual, they will end up on ebay most likely BELOW standard dealer pricing.

Too bad, because they make a nice product. Unfortunately their managemnt cannot decide if they want the high-quality reseller or the low-end ebay whore selling it at dealer costs to the masses. Bad part is that all these manufacturers seem to try both sides and then their good dealer network dies.

UEI - WAKE UP! You can't have it both ways!

From one of your longest term resellers!
Post 20 made on Friday October 2, 2009 at 20:04
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On September 18, 2009 at 14:33, RemoteQuest said...
Yup, sold ONE, fully programmed at full price. Very different from the remote whores on ebay.

You know what the difference between a crack whore who charges $5 a pop and the upper class one with the fancy hotel who charges $1500 a night? NOTHING. A whore is a whore. You know this stuff should not on Ebay full price or otherwise.
James S. Bellagio
Post 21 made on Thursday October 8, 2009 at 12:22
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Just started getting C2's and C3's in. I like the remotes. I abhor the software. It's almost as bad as Harm'mes.

I really don't see why since it's a "CI only" product they couldn't have put an option in studio pro or a similar type software to program them. The software is online only, sluggish and terrible. You can't even use your nevo library where you have stored all your learned discrete codes.

Every remote requires a unique email address and requires the consumer to activate their account. If they fail to do that 3 days later when you try to reprogram or tweak the remote you're dead ended.

I really can't state enough how much I detest the software or how much my sphincter will tighten every time I see one under me on the schedule to program.

That being said I think the remotes are very customer friendly and feel like they are built really well.
One thing I have learned in this industry. It is easier to pull a wire than it is to push one.
Post 22 made on Thursday October 8, 2009 at 12:28
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I don't think Nevo is trying to trick anybody. They are very up front about the limitations of the remote and at the price point it's at, that is the sacrifice. Certainly you should be able to use more in a home and maybe they will expand to that feature, but there is nothing wrong with explaining this to the customer if he wants to save a few bucks.
OP | Post 23 made on Sunday October 11, 2009 at 21:27
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they are very condescending,
saying that they are CI only,
but have zero CI features.

imagine,
you cant even have a dealer login for programming,
instead you need a unique email address for each remote.

and you cant even install 2 in one house
due to the RF base limitations . .
Post 24 made on Monday October 12, 2009 at 09:40
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i've got my torch and pitchfork, anyone want to burn down the Nevo village?  :mad:
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OP | Post 25 made on Monday October 12, 2009 at 10:35
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On October 12, 2009 at 09:40, Duct Tape said...
i've got my torch and pitchfork, anyone want to burn down the Nevo village? :mad:

im with you!
im officially pissed at nevo
and have basically given up on them.

i love the Q50 and S70,
i cant stand that we waited this long for a new release,
and this is what we get!

and they tell me nothing new is coming for a year except 3.0

at this point i will only sell the Q50 and S70
when they are on sale, otherwise i see no reason
when i can get RTI remotes that are similar for basically the same price.

they have a much wider product offering, and a much better roadmap for the future.
Post 26 made on Tuesday October 13, 2009 at 03:30
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The software description mimics Harmony to a "T." Harmony has spent years "perfecting" that model.....I can't help but think there's something fishy here. You think Nevo might just be licensing the Harmony online service with a customized front-end?
Post 27 made on Tuesday October 13, 2009 at 10:47
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On October 13, 2009 at 03:30, brodyboy said...
The software description mimics Harmony to a "T." Harmony has spent years "perfecting" that model.....I can't help but think there's something fishy here. You think Nevo might just be licensing the Harmony online service with a customized front-end?

actually the software is worse then harmony's imo. It's like they looked at everything wrong with the harmony line up. fixed 99% of the problems with harmonys (except the software) but in doing so over looked several things that harmonys actually did well.

there is no way to return to an activity without resending the turn on commands. The favorite section acts like a seperate entity and sometimes the cable box functions don't work as they should unless you hit device and go back to cable box.

I mean honestly after explaining how the remote does what it does and doesn't do what you would think it would do, you can find yourself explaining how it's any better then using the time warner cable remote. I mean what good is a master remote when you need to leave the customer a cheat sheet in what to do when it decides not to work as planned?
One thing I have learned in this industry. It is easier to pull a wire than it is to push one.
Post 28 made on Tuesday October 20, 2009 at 13:30
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I dont know about that one, there are alot of guys I know with $5
Post 29 made on Thursday October 22, 2009 at 09:40
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Yeah I don't mean to continue ranting or beat a dead horse, but...

The first C3 that was sold to one of my customers was just a walk in who wanted a master remote salesman sold him a C3. I go to the guys house sit there shooting the breeze with him for 2 hours waiting for the online software to update for each step of programming you want to do. He had a Samsung 1080 panel so in talking to him about replacing his Samsung receiver/dvd combo with a bluray player and an actual receiver.

Guy stops in yesterday and asks for me. I let him listen to one of our smaller displays and he says he wants not only the new pioneer receiver and bluray but also wants the monitor audio speaker package I demoed the bluray on. Guy pays for the system up front says he will be at work today but will leave his garage unlocked and told me to just go in through the garage and set everything up.

So now I go to update the remote programming so I won't be at his house on an air card for 2 hours setting up the remote and low and behold he didn't activate the account email so I am going to have to bother him at work about responding to an email (not going to happen), wait and spend a ton of extra time at his house updating the remote, or just use my personal email and start from scratch.

Thanks for the great CI product UEI!
One thing I have learned in this industry. It is easier to pull a wire than it is to push one.
Post 30 made on Friday October 23, 2009 at 01:26
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Just a note...

You don't need to start from scratch.

Just d/l the job from the remote!
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