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Post 1 made on Wednesday July 26, 2006 at 11:43
holdmade
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Hi

Is there any way to:

1. Prevent the home button from sending the Nevo to the home page? If the remote is inside an activity, the last this I want is an accidental press of the home button and ending up back there.

2. Prevent the page scrolling button from scrolling through pages (or reprogramming it to do another function?

3. Remove the status bar at the top of the screen (like Pronto NG) and adding battery, ir, wifi and time indicators elsewhere ?

Thanks is advance,

Si
Philips Pronto TSU9600 & TSU9400, Samsung 46 LED TV, Denon Receiver, MCE Windows 7, PS3, iPad
Post 2 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 00:07
ddarche
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Si,

I think you may have a misconception about how the Activity-based solution actually works. You cannot disable the home page key. The key to changing activities is to allow the user to go home and change activities. Put all of your macros on the home page icons and allow the user to change "activities. This is how the Nevo SL works so well. Think "activities, not "individual remotes".

Dave
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Post 3 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 05:51
tm4711
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as far as I know the answer to all 1-3 is no. Regarding 3.: I want to do that too (plus the labels at the bottom) as this eats up a lot of screen real estate (I guess about 5-10%). My feature request has not been answerd by UEI.

Thorsten
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OP | Post 4 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 09:07
holdmade
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Dave

Thanks for your reply.

I have it set up using activitys, but to watch my SkyHD, it needs to send a "SKY" command to turn it on; this also stops the playback of watching recorded tv, so if I'm watching some recorded TV, knock the home button, press the "Watch SkyHD" activity button, it send the "SKY" command and stops the playback, very annoying.
I have a button on the SkyHD screen "OFF" that first asks for confirmation and then powers down before returning to the home page, ready for another activity.
I hope you understand what I mean ?

Si
Philips Pronto TSU9600 & TSU9400, Samsung 46 LED TV, Denon Receiver, MCE Windows 7, PS3, iPad
Post 5 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 09:50
Steve (UK)
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I am in a similar position. My TV takes 90 seconds to start. Part of the turning the system on waits for this 90 seconds. If I can accidently jump to the home page I would then have to wait for the macro to complete. I know there are work arounds to this. I could for example prompt during this macro but I do not want to do that. I want complete control of the page flow.

This is disapointing.

In the case you talk about you could consider leaving the sky box on 100% of the time. I do that to simplfy the macros.
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 11:13
holdmade
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It is disappointing, I could do it with my prontos easy, and with my MX's its a doddle.

I did used to leave my SKY+ box on but the HD box gets very, very hot if left on all the time.

Si
Philips Pronto TSU9600 & TSU9400, Samsung 46 LED TV, Denon Receiver, MCE Windows 7, PS3, iPad
Post 7 made on Thursday July 27, 2006 at 11:42
ddarche
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Guys,

I create a "Devices" area so I can go to other operating pages while I am watching something. This eliminates the firing of the macros.

Here's how it is done:

Create a page collection called Devices. Keep just one page in this page collection. On this page, basically re-create your home page. I would not copy the entire home page, just add a background and add the icons needed. Include icons for all of your equipment. Remove any macros from these icons if you copied icons directly from the home page.

Now just add a jump from each icon to the main adjustment page for each device.

Lastly, add an icon or use a hardbutton on your home page labeled "components" or "Devices" and jump to the Devices page.

This does two things.

1) Allows immediate access to any page, whithout firing macros. Mainly if you wanted to go to adjust something on a piece of equipment, without disrupting viewing.

2) Allows a way back to the main operating page of the activitiy you have already jumped to.

Hope this helps - Dave
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Post 8 made on Friday July 28, 2006 at 02:35
xincer
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I completely agree with the need to over-ride the side home button. I do a similar thing to what Dave discribes, but my most effective alternative has also been to make the farthest left hard button at the bottom of the screen an alternate Home button. When that button is pressed it looks like you are home, but it "remembers", so to speak, what is currently on. So if you are watching a DVD and want to jump to TV, my home button will direct you to an identical Home page that will turn off the DVD player when the TV activity is started.

Now this being said, you can go my option by making a new Home button and kill another button on the remote, this will solve the problem, but training your wife to use the new Home button instead of the old Home button is a whole other issue that I haven't been able to fix yet. My DVD player is on now almost 24/7 after the wife plays the Baby Einstien videos for the kid.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't dunk its head.
Post 9 made on Friday July 28, 2006 at 03:04
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Here's a case where a "browse backwards" facility would be useful to return to the page you came from before accidentally pressing home.

Incidentally, I employ a similar method to Dave. I have a "Devices" icon on the home page which jumps to a page containing power on/off commands for each device (I utilise this to power down my system when I wish to continue recording a program). Because I only have four devices (TV, SKY, HDD DVD & Amp) I have buttons to jump to each of these devices repeated at the top of every page, except the home page which just contains my activities (plus the previously mentioned Devices button). Consequently, I've never had a problem if I accidentally jump to the home page.

If anyone's intertested, I'll sumit my config (I've been meaning to do this anyway as I've made some SKY UK TV logos which look fairly good. They were designed to fit on a re-sized NevoSL Standard button from the gallery, but they also happen to fit well on the new brushed steel TV logos template in NevoStudio2).
Mike
Post 10 made on Friday July 28, 2006 at 08:02
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I have made two home pages. The "home" buttin sends you back to home page "1" which is made by default when you setup nevo. I didn't add anything to that page other than the appropriate "jump to" device when the icon is touched.

The second home page I made is simply for power up's (Watch TV, Watch DVD, Watch TiVo, etc.) and it is where I put my macros. That way if I do ever accidentally hit the home button, I just tap the corresponding device and it sends my back to the device home page WITHOUT sending a load of macros. However, when I power down, at the end of the power down macro, it sends me back to the second "power up" home page so that it's ready the next time I pick it up.

In essence I've found that it does in a sense bypass the home page button, or it at least makes an accidental press fairly harmless.
Post 11 made on Friday July 28, 2006 at 13:54
SMatson
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Nice workaround ckelly33.

Scott
OP | Post 12 made on Saturday July 29, 2006 at 08:35
holdmade
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ckelly33, I've tried this and it works really well for me and am now using it until UEI can put an option to disable the home button, many thanks

Si
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Post 13 made on Saturday July 29, 2006 at 14:16
ckelly33
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sure man. An option to actaully make it DO something else would be nice.
Post 14 made on Saturday July 29, 2006 at 14:36
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That is a great way to do it ckelly33, thanks for the input. I am going to change mine to function that way as well. My family jumps between activities a lot though still without powering down first, so I have to keep my method of using a hard button to get to a home page for switching sources, but your method will force the wife and kid to stop using the home button, which is leaving devices on that aren't in use.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't dunk its head.
Post 15 made on Saturday July 29, 2006 at 14:49
the_zap_gun
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I must admit though, I like the home button where it is/how it is. It saves having to have a home button on the touch screen like my RU950 (I've always needed to re-progam the existing home hardkey on the Pronto).

I've never has any trouble accidently selecting the home page and I designed in a method like Chris and Dave to be able to jump back to a device without firing off activity macros anyway.

I'd rather UEI spent time their time sorting out the "runaway" IR code issue and reducing the delay between sucessive IR codes (my average activity consists of approx. 4 commands and my god, it slow!!).
Mike
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