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Post 1 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 13:43
pclark
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As a current Pronto owner and prospective new buyer, I am very interested in the Nevo. Is the Nevostudio available like ProntoEdit so that users can demo/experiment with the software? I'd like to tinker with it to compare the environment to ProntoEdit before I make a purchase decision regarding the Pronto 7000 vs a NevoSL.

I contacted someone here who is a rep for the Nevo but I never received a response.

It is one of the *nice* things about Phillips. At least you do not need to necessarily own a Pronto to learn a little about what makes the Pronto tick.


Thanks,
Pat
Post 2 made on Monday November 7, 2005 at 15:43
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I am pretty sure that NevoStudio is only available to dealers / integrators that have attended the training course. At this stage, the NevoSL is only being sold through approved dealers so you shouldn't be seeing it for sale on the internet.
Post 3 made on Tuesday November 8, 2005 at 14:29
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Karmann is correct.

If you aren't a dealer, you should not be able to get your hands on the NevoSL or the NevoLink programming software.

If you would like a demo, or to make a purchase, you have to fill out the form on the nevo website for dealer contact info.
Hungry for Info!
OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday November 8, 2005 at 23:09
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Well....thanks, but

I did fill out the form on the UEI site and that was two weeks ago and I have not yet even got a call from anyone in my area to go see the unit.

And it was not NevoLink that I was really inquiring about, it's the environment, the NevoStudio. Maybe Nevolink is part of that overall package. But as I've indicated, I've programmed my Pronto and I was interested in taking an extended look at the Nevo environment to see how it compares to ProntoEdit to see if the Nevo warrants my time and $$$. I do like my Pronto but I'm taking a hard look at Phillips quality issues regarding their products.
Post 5 made on Tuesday November 8, 2005 at 23:46
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I'd love to be able to help you out Pat but I think Brisbane Australia is a bit far away for you. Hopefully a local dealer in L.A. will spot this thread and get in contact with you.
OP | Post 6 made on Wednesday November 9, 2005 at 00:18
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Thanks karmann,

It's the offer alone that counts.
Post 7 made on Wednesday November 9, 2005 at 03:37
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Pat,

If you are in the Los Angeles area, you might want to contact the local AVAD office there (I believe they are in Van Nuys). They are the exclusive distributors of NevoSL (thus the "you shouldn't be seeing it for sale on the internet" post earlier by karmann) and can hook you up with the software. Although I'm pretty sure that you might have to actually be one of their customers in order for them to hand over the software, but it's worth it.
OP | Post 8 made on Wednesday November 9, 2005 at 09:31
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Ry-dog,

Thanks for the information. I have no problem if it's a brick-and-mortar store to go get one of the units, ask questions, etc.

My only problem with this whole "available to professional installers only" slant is that this is reminiscent of the earlier computer days gone by where the computer was considered to be "too complicated for the average user so don't go beyond this". Early adopters, like myself, tinkered, experimented, *learned* and then, I did what any mentor should do.....I taught others. It was nothing as if some of my friends were making this "mysterious" box out to be. Things like "It's too hard, you should not do this or that" just did not sit well with me and some were just downright lies. Sure, DOS was a bit cryptic, but not terribly hard to learn. You just had to invest a little of your time to learn the commands. Some things were easier than others but that was just the way it was. Ever try to understand Photoshop? It still has quite the learning curve but it pays off in the end if you just invest some of your own time to experiment.

However, my whole position on this is: service, service, service. As I taught, people came back to me for help and assistance, and word of mouth got around that I was a person who could help others. This is my fundamental position in life. You help others, others will refer more help to you and you have a growing business. Therefore, if I buy something from an owner who is willing to sell, support and maybe do a little handholding, I'm taking my business back to them and you can bet I'm going to refer anyone and everyone to that owner. That is fundamental to growing a business, a service.

So, this "mysterious" NevoSL is just another programming device like a Pronto that simply takes time and effort to learn and understand. It may certainly have some complex elements that need to be understood, but to restrict it to the "holy professional installer" is a disservice and frankly, an insult to my intelligence. No insult intended to those professional installers out there! However, look at when the Pronto arrived, forums like this one popped up and provided real help and assistance. There are a great many people here that provide lots of assistance and it has helped to grow the Pronto. The NevoSl really looks to be a great device; I just simply disagree with the positioning of the device by UEI. Will I but one...probably, it looks to be a great device. But I think that UEI is simply restricting the device to a limited market and could do better by the customer by making it widely available to the "general public" by a good sales and support team. Phillips does it here by proxy, but I have serious issues regarding their QC of the Pronto.

Bottom line, *I* will decide where my money is spent. Let's face it....$800 is a hunk of change and I don't just throw money away.

Sorry for the rant here guys.......must have been too much soda earlier in the day...no flame intended here....

This message was edited by pclark on 11/09/05 09:44 ET.
Post 9 made on Wednesday November 9, 2005 at 11:52
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pclark- I don't believe that the installer only methology is to be a putdown on the smart consumers, but a way to gain dealer loyalty. I believe that what UEI is trying to do is to provide dealers with a remote (similar to RTI) that has to be purchased through a dealer (without internet sales). What this does is allow a dealer to get the sale and make a little bit of $ on the sale. It's very frustrating putting out a proposal, only to have the potential customer look online and find some weird shop selling the same item for dirt cheap (many times it's right at or below the cost of what a dealer can purchase at). This is a way of offering "price protection" for the dealers.
Just my $.02
OP | Post 10 made on Wednesday November 9, 2005 at 12:14
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Excellent point Alex.

I may be one of those "odd" people out here though. You know why I take my car to the dealership? Because this particular dealership offers me *service*. I shopped for an independant car guy and when I was talking with them, I felt like they were doing me a favor by asking them to fix my car. When I go to the dealership, I pay about 7% more than the best independant but. However, my dealer gives me a free rental car, washes my car each and every time it is in (and it is rare, but they do wash it without even asking), and make me feel welcomed that I chose their facility to have my car worked on. In return for this *service*, I take my car to them and I recommend my friends and neighbors that they take their cars there and give 'em an opportunity to win their loyalty.

It is very simple for me, when I offer to give you my hard earned money, what are going to give me in return? Just a sale? ..."Oh gee mr salesperson, thank you for taking time out of your day to sell me a product?". Thanks, I'll go somewhere else where a good relationship can be built or I'll simply go to the interent and get it for myself and do it myself. Loyalty and trust, to me, are *earned*, not just given. Sorry....prove to me that you are who you say you are by *actions*, not just talk and promises. You show me what you can do and live up to your word, I'll give you loyalty, respect and brings others to your table and do what I can to help you grow and prosper. But that comes with a price tag....earn it.
OP | Post 11 made on Wednesday November 9, 2005 at 16:03
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Ry-dog,

Regarding your earlier post...what/who is AVAD in Van Nuys....can't seem to find them.

Thanks,
PC
Post 12 made on Thursday November 10, 2005 at 02:38
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AVAD distributes products to custom installers only, so you will probably have a hard time purchasing a NevoSL unless you are a professional installer.

Here is their website if you would like to find out more information:

http://www.avadsocal.com/
Post 13 made on Thursday November 10, 2005 at 10:06
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I bought the Nevo SL with the Nevo Studio software and installed it myself.. Not a problem..


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