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Topic: | New URC Software and Support Policy This thread has 3642 replies. Displaying posts 3631 through 3643. |
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oex Super Member |
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On May 12, 2007 at 13:00, Rich_Guy said...
Does this mean you believe you are overcharging and treating your customers poorly? Based on my work load, I'd say I am undercharging and treating my clients too well. I do have a reputation for A) Being a little more money and B) Being one of the best. I guess some like to pay for performance.
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roddymcg Loyal Member |
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On May 12, 2007 at 23:14, oex said...
Based on my work load, I'd say I am undercharging and treating my clients too well.
I do have a reputation for A) Being a little more money and B) Being one of the best.
I guess some like to pay for performance. Me too... Why are clients we are charging hundreds of thousands of dollars telling all their friends about us??
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Herman Trivilino Long Time Member |
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On May 12, 2007 at 16:46, Rich_Guy said...
Apparently it maybe CI's greed which lead to a market which now bears lower prices which now allow ordinary consumers to purchase URC products below the CI's cost. Socialists call it greed, capitalists call it profit. CI's should be after URC to bring prices down so they can be profitable while being able to compete in the market. CI's don't do what you think they should do. They do what they think is in their own best interests. The same goes for URC. Personally, I don't care for URC's attitude towards me as a professional end user, but they have provided the service they've promised. Also, I think that a CI would not be able to provide a service for me that'd be worth what I'd have to pay him, unless he could do something for me that I can't figure out how to do myself. At some point in the future I might also think that hiring a CI would be a good time-saver for me. Right now, though, I'd rather do it myself because I enjoy doing it, and I get satisfaction from having learned how to do it myself. I don't expect others to do as I do, or feel as I feel, and I therfore do not criticize CI's for providing the service to them that they want, at a price that they're willing to pay.
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On May 13, 2007 at 07:35, Herman Trivilino said...
Socialists call it greed, capitalists call it profit. But it is the CI's who are trying to make URC sell the socialist way trying to control prices to remain high and complaining about lower priced competitors. CI's don't do what you think they should do. They do what they think is in their own best interests. The same goes for URC.
Personally, I don't care for URC's attitude towards me as a professional end user, but they have provided the service they've promised. The problem is URC has not provided for all their customers, leaving many now without updates and some with no software at all.
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On May 13, 2007 at 17:19, Rich_Guy said...
But it is the CI's who are trying to make URC sell the socialist way trying to control prices to remain high and complaining about lower priced competitors.
The problem is URC has not provided for all their customers, leaving many now without updates and some with no software at all. Rich Guy, Are CI's necessary in your picture? How much profit should a CI make, %wise, roughly? Please, don't dodge any of these ?'s.
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On May 12, 2007 at 23:18, roddymcg said...
Me too...
Why are clients we are charging hundreds of thousands of dollars telling all their friends about us?? Why are there Hari Krishna's? Supporters of George Bush? Followers of Bin Laden? Jehovah witnesses? Oh the list goes on and on and on............. I think that is one complaint from CI's here some of their potential customers see URC remotes selling for almost 1/3 what the CI quotes them... oops end of sale in most cases. But ignorance is bliss and also leads to referrals.
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roddymcg Loyal Member |
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Rich Guy = bullshit
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On May 13, 2007 at 18:01, roddymcg said...
Rich Guy = bullshit Rich Guy does not put up with URC and CI's bullshit...
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roddymcg Loyal Member |
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Putting Ci's in with Bin Laden, go f$%k yourself you pathetic loser.
Get a life...
Remember you don't know a CI or know anyone who has ever used a CI.
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On May 13, 2007 at 18:31, roddymcg said...
Putting Ci's in with Bin Laden, go f$%k yourself you pathetic loser. Wow Roddy, I hope you read and comprehend the instruction manuals of the components you install better than you do the posts here! Get a life... I have an excellent one thanks ;) Remember you don't know a CI or know anyone who has ever used a CI. You're right for a change, if this thread is any kind of example I sure hope I never do. But I do hope URC will come to their senses and correct their horrible policy and treat all of their customers fairly! That would really be nice.
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Herman Trivilino Long Time Member |
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On May 13, 2007 at 17:19, Rich_Guy said...
But it is the CI's who are trying to make URC sell the socialist way trying to control prices to remain high and complaining about lower priced competitors. Controling prices in an attempt to maximize profits is capitalism. Calling it greed is what socialists do. The problem is URC has not provided for all their customers, leaving many now without updates and some with no software at all. So what? They aren't interested in providing that for their customers. They're interested in maximizing their profits. If they find that providing that for their customers increases their profits, then that's what they'll do. If they don't, then they won't. Hopefully, efforts by folks like you will result in URC providing better service, but if it does it'll only happen because it's in their own best interests to do so. Despite what a company's mission statement might be, they aren't out to improve society. They're out to make profits.
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Gorignak Long Time Member |
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On May 13, 2007 at 17:34, Rich_Guy said...
Why are there Hari Krishna's? Supporters of George Bush? Followers of Bin Laden? Jehovah witnesses? Oh the list goes on and on and on............. Dear Daniel Tonks: This has gone far enough. Or rather, this on person has gone far enough. I have made it clear that I vehemently disagree with Rich Guy, but that in no way would ever justify the censoring of his words here. However, the quoted comment is a vile and putrid attempt to impune a group of hard-working professionals in the very industry whose advertising supports this web site. Further, he also goes out of his way to offend supporters of an entire political party, the nation it operates in, and two religions who, while not mainstream, are both peace-loving organizations of decent human beings. In his smear tactics, he associates all of these people, and my profession, with one of the most descpicable acts of human cruelty in the last one hundred years. There are a number of vocal and active members here who support Rich Guy's goals without stooping to childish finger pointing and harsh, cruel insults in an attempt to make their points. While I disagree with them, I would never ask you to censor their point of view. Rich Guy, however, has repeatedly reverted to overt repetition of the same crass insults. He has long since stopped offering anything new to this argument, but instead has sunken to insulting anyone and everyone, associated with his point or not, trying to scare his detractors out of the playing field. As a professional who stands DEEPLY offended, I ask you, respectfully, to terminate Rich Guy's membership on Remote Central. Let those who have undertaken their arguments respectfully be the ones who carry on his fight, as no doubt they will. I respect that. What I cannot respect is any member who would defile religions, nations, political parties, or any group just to make some stupid point about a stupid remote control. And frankly, I cannot respect any public forum that will allow this sort of behvior to go unchecked. Remote Central once felt like a community. Rich has single-handedly destroyed that good feeling for many hard working professionals. I ask again that you put an end to his particular brand of making a point, and let those who are adult enough to argue respectfully go on with whatever issues they feel are important to champion. I volunteer my own membership for the chopping block as well, if it will help make the point that I am not trying to stop Rich's goal. I am merely trying to make it clear to him that he treats others far, FAR worse than any CI or any manufacturer at which he ever pointed a finger. Sincerely, Gorignak
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Daniel Tonks Wrangler of Remotes |
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Agreed. This topic has been beaten to death, and the only new things that have been said lately are basically offensive.
And since this topic is closed, that also means discussion of this topic matter is also closed. The only thread remaining relating to this subject will be to assist owners in getting their software, and there will be NO policy discussion in there or anywhere else.
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