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Marantz DVD toggle-bit codes unlearnable in MX-Editor. What to do?
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Post 1 made on Tuesday June 13, 2006 at 14:11
archiguy
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I recently purchased a Marantz DV7600 universal player and found that several of the OEM remote codes are "toggle-bit" (aka "parity-bit") codes that MX-Editor seems to choke on. I called URC and got some confusing information from someone there (he wouldn't let me talk to an actual engineer). He suggested mailing in my OEM remote and they could "extract" the troublesome codes and give them back to me (how, he never said) in a form that I could then get into MX-Editor and then into my MX-800.

My question: has anyone here ever tried that? Ever mailed an OEM remote to URC for some kind of code extraction? If so, how did they get back to you the "repaired" codes? I'm stumped by this problem (can't find on/off discretes that work either) and don't know of any other way to get the full code set from this OEM remote into my MX-800. I've tried all the code sets in the IR Database; they all contain the same toggle-bit codes and thus are all useless. Can't "learn" them either, of course, so it's looking pretty grim.

Any help would be appreciated!
Post 2 made on Tuesday June 13, 2006 at 21:29
Kurt77++
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What codes cant you learn. I have learnt the codes from that remote several time with out problems.
Let me know and ill make sure i have that code on file and e-mail it to you. I have sent other remotes to URC before no problems they send the remote back to you once they are finished and e-mail you a copy of the IR pallet
Post 3 made on Thursday June 15, 2006 at 07:44
archidude
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Kurt, I'm afraid the OEM remote is a veritable train wreck of toggle-bit codes. (It's probably easier to list the codes that DO work.) Anyway, I can give you a partial list of the non-working buttons (at least the ones I've discovered so far):

S MODE
OPEN/CLOSE
DIMM
SETUP
DISPLAY
VIDEO ADJ
PROGRAM
AUDIO
ZOOM
TOP MENU

In short, just about every button except the transport buttons, track advance/back, menu, and the toggle on/off button. Basically, every button that would map to a hard button on the MX-800 seems to be okay; but most every button that maps to a soft button on the MX-800 is unlearnable (probably a clue there). My question to Marantz: What on earth were you people thinking with all these parity-bit codes???!

(Ummm, just an aside, "archiguy" and "archidude" are the same person - me. I somehow got two identities in Remote Central, one on my home computer and one on my work computer. Lost the password for my original "identity", and the site software won't let you choose one yourself.)

Last edited by archidude on June 15, 2006 08:28.
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Post 4 made on Thursday June 15, 2006 at 09:17
archidude
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Kurt - "upon further review"...

I have now found a Marantz IR code in the Marantz DVD section of the database that actually works with most of the buttons. It's called [MARANTZ 3] and it's second from the bottom of that section. Eureka!!

However, there are still a couple of glitches. The S MODE button actually contains the code that's found on the "SEARCH" button on the OEM remote (and there's no SEARCH button in the IR database code set. There's also no DISPLAY button in that code set. So, it appears, now, that that only buttons I need are:

S MODE
SEARCH
DISPLAY
and discrete ON & OFF

If you could help me with those, I think I'll be okay.
archie
Post 5 made on Thursday June 15, 2006 at 19:57
8ate8
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The Marantz DVD players don't have discrete power. You have to use Play to turn on and Play/Power to turn off.

Have you tried using other Marantz DVD player codes in the database? I use the DV6400 codes for all the Marantz DVD players I install and haven't had any problems with them.
Post 6 made on Friday June 16, 2006 at 06:37
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8ate8, What are you on about? Every Marantz DVD Player i have ever come across has discrete On, Off.
Marantz DV4300, 8400, 4500, 4600, 6500, 6600, 7600, 9500, 9600 Hollywood in a Box, DV4200 plus more,
Post 7 made on Friday June 16, 2006 at 23:05
Vincent Delpino
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All the dvd players use the same descretes. Email me if you need them.
Post 8 made on Saturday June 17, 2006 at 07:15
archidude
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I'm down to 3 codes that I need now. Discrete ON/OFF and that infernal SMODE button (switches audio tracks in SACD's - an important button because the player automatically defaults to hi-rez stereo when an SACD is inserted and you have to hit that button to get to the multi-channel or redbook CD tracks).

I asked a Marantz tech at Marantz America to e-mail me the hex codes for those commands, he did, and they don't work. The toggle-bit problem again, I guess. This is pretty vexing.

Vincent, do you have all three of these, or just the ON & OFF?
archie
Post 9 made on Saturday June 17, 2006 at 13:28
Remote Monkey
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Archie,

I'm trying to e-mail you a file with some of the codes you're looking for but I get delivery failure notices. Are your listed e-mail addresses current?

Sean.
Remote Monkey
Post 10 made on Saturday June 17, 2006 at 18:34
8ate8
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Curious as to why URC hasn't included the discrete power for the MZ DVD's in their database. I have the MZ RC1400 remote that came with my SR7500 receiver and just realized the ON/OFF buttons worked discretely for the DVD. You'd figured URC would have them in their database all ready.

Well damn, this'll make programming easier now :D
Post 11 made on Sunday June 18, 2006 at 09:09
Vincent Delpino
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Try any button labled audio for smode. I have it if you need it.
OP | Post 12 made on Sunday June 18, 2006 at 11:07
archiguy
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On June 17, 2006 at 13:28, Remote Monkey said...
Archie,

I'm trying to e-mail you a file with some of the
codes you're looking for but I get delivery failure
notices. Are your listed e-mail addresses current?

Sean.

Sorry about that. The "Archiguy" address is very old (3 ISP's ago) and I need to get it corrected. The address in the "Archidude" profile is correct (please send your helpful codes there), but as soon as I get the other one straightened out, Archidude will go sleep with the fishes. But until then, that's the one to use.

I wouldn't have needed to establish a new "identity" in the first place if this site didn't generate random (thus impossible to remember) passwords and I didn't use 2 computers (one at home, one at work). Might be a higher level of security, but really, is a higher level of security really needed on an internet message board?
Post 13 made on Monday June 19, 2006 at 23:26
8ate8
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On June 18, 2006 at 11:07, archiguy said...
I wouldn't have needed to establish a new "identity"
in the first place if this site didn't generate
random (thus impossible to remember) passwords
and I didn't use 2 computers (one at home, one
at work). Might be a higher level of security,
but really, is a higher level of security really
needed on an internet message board?

Why didn't you just change your password directly after you signed up? About half the msg boards I've signed up to generate passwords automatically for you, and then you just change it after you log in for the first time.
Post 14 made on Tuesday June 20, 2006 at 08:06
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Didn't know that, 8. Armed with that knowledge, I'll try to fix it.

In the meantime, hey Remote Monkey, still want to send me your codes? Please? And Vincent, the AUDIO button cycles through the audio tracks on DVD's and DVD-A's, but doesn't change the audio tracks on SACD's. For that, unfortunately, you need that infernal SMODE button. Wouldn't be that big a deal except the player defaults to hi-rez stereo whenever you insert an SACD, and I do all my hi-rez listening in multichannel mode. Therein is the rub, as the Bard might say. Bet he never had parity bit problems with his quill pen. :-)
archie
Post 15 made on Tuesday June 20, 2006 at 18:34
Remote Monkey
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In the meantime, hey Remote Monkey, still want
to send me your codes?

Consider them sent.

Sean.
Remote Monkey
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