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SA 8300HD power on and off with MX3000
This thread has 22 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 23.
Post 16 made on Wednesday May 3, 2006 at 21:35
Eric Johnson
Universal Remote Control Inc.
May 2001
Just want to chime in. If you use variables to convert a toggle command to behave in theory like discrete commands, you need to also program a help page to re sync the system when necessary.

You save lots of time by always specifying components with discrete commands.

My recommendation is to limit variable use to elegant shortening of macros as does dualtriamp, this type of variable use does not require the additional work of creating a help page.

With cable and satellite TOADS, Dale is correct. There isn't any real purpose in turning them off, they still consume the same amount of power.

The upcoming MRF-400 is the correct solution for tracking power status, since it includes sensor ports that can detect when a component is on or off, then issue the toggle power command when necessary.

We hope to ship it in a few weeks!

Best Regards,

Best Regards,
Post 17 made on Wednesday May 3, 2006 at 22:40
RC Moderator
May 2002
On May 3, 2006 at 21:35, Eric Johnson said...
The upcoming MRF-400 is the correct solution for
tracking power status, since it includes sensor
ports that can detect when a component is on or
off, then issue the toggle power command when

We hope to ship it in a few weeks!

Best Regards,


So does this mean Beta testing has already happened? or shipping them will be for Beta testing?

Just curious as I have heard that the software was still way out for release due to issues in it

Who were the beta testors as I would like to talk with them on their findings and overall thoughts and results of their testing

Last edited by Glackowitz on May 3, 2006 22:47.
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Post 18 made on Thursday May 4, 2006 at 01:01
Long Time Member
March 2005
On May 1, 2006 at 09:11, SquiddOhio said...
That's a great idea, but not all the SA8300s have
that command. From what I can tell from the HD
boards, only SA8300 boxes with the SARA software
have this feature on the menu. Other boxes run
Passport software, like mine, and do not have
the menu command that allows a power on with number

As far as I know the power + numeric was released as part of a software & firmware upgrade for both SARA and Pioneer software. Check with your cable company... I had to exchange my box (no charge with Cablevision NY) to get the most updated version which also fixed some HDMI HDCP handshake issues.

Mine gets out of sync all the time. In fact, my
general power on macro, which does not include
a power command for the 8300, turns it on or off
anyway --

Do you have any components plugged into the AC on the SA box? If so that device may be triggering the SA's power.

I just have the "On"
button set to send the toggle command, so if I
go to the watch HD TV mode and the box happens
to be off at that point, I just push that button.
I can live with that

Not a big deal by any means until your wife calls you in the middle of a meeting to tell you that your brand new HDTV must be broken because the audio is coming through your surrounds but there's no picture. My heart skips a beat until I can take a deep breath and tell her to toggle the TV power.

I know of to turn the box off
anyway. Many people leave them on all the time
(like a TiVo).

Tivos are designed to be kept on 24/7... SARA boxes are not. The software & guide downloads are not as sophisticated and most can only be received while the box is off. The SA is also notorious for running very, very hot so if you keep it on all the time you are exposing the drive to very difficul conditions.
Post 19 made on Friday July 7, 2006 at 17:57
Jimbo in MD
Lurking Member
July 2006
I'm a newbie that owns an 8300HD and I'm picking up my MX-900 at the store tomorrow. My 8300 does have the "power and numeric" option available, but I don't know what this means or how it helps me work around the power toggle. Could someone elaborate a liittle bit on this.
Post 20 made on Friday July 7, 2006 at 18:20
Loyal Member
June 2005
Please re-read my above posts carefully.

Power on the 8300HD

Press Setttings button twice on remote

Scroll up a few until you see PowerOn and set it to "Power and Numeric"

Press Setttings twice to get out of menu

Turn cable box OFF

Press any digit, i.e. 0 (zero)

Your box is now on via a digit command instead of a power command.

Programming is as follows for your mx remote:

Cable box ON macro = 0, .5 sec delay, Exit

Cable box OFF macro = 0, .5 sec delay, Exit, .5 sec delay, Power

You now have commands that mimic a true discrete.
Post 21 made on Friday July 7, 2006 at 18:43
Jimbo in MD
Lurking Member
July 2006
Sorry 'bout that, I was thinking that "numeric" referred to a HEX code or something. Thanx for the quick reply.
Post 22 made on Sunday September 30, 2007 at 14:56
Lurking Member
September 2007
I have created the cable box on & off macros and assigned them to buttons on page 3. However, I can't seem to get the macros to run during my power on macro. Should there be a "macro icon" in the Macros & Favorites window (Step column) indicating that it will run a macro? There are icons indicating that the command will be sent for the devices that have a discrete code and the command to go to the Cable page so I thought there should be one for the P-ON macro I created for the cable box.
Post 23 made on Monday October 1, 2007 at 18:44
Long Time Member
September 2006
On April 30, 2006 at 22:42, shnakz69 said...
I dunno if you are aware of this or if you use it currently....
you need to set up a variable for all TOAD equipment to
overcome toggle power... if you dont know how then let
me know and ill shoot you an email with a template page
to show you how you should set it up... i use an 8300HD
from time warner as well and i have no problems with making
a descrete function from a TOAD power toggle....

Shnakz69 can you email me a file that shows how this works please. I have the 8300 as well. [email protected]
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