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MX-700 for $231
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Post 1 made on Monday October 21, 2002 at 14:59
Trun Cated
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It is availabe here:

[Link: worthdist.com]

for $231. Any comments? Isn't this a good deal?
Post 2 made on Monday October 21, 2002 at 16:16
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That would be a great price, if true! It would get the MX-700 down to a price equal to the MX-500 plus the new PC programming card & software. In the picture, though, they have the MX-700 labeled as an MX-800! :-)
Post 3 made on Monday October 21, 2002 at 18:07
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See my post in the "Survey....." thread.
When ignorance is bliss, ‘tis folly to be wise.
Post 4 made on Monday October 21, 2002 at 18:19
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On 10/21/02 14:59.42, Trun Cated said...
It is availabe here:

[Link: worthdist.com]

for $231. Any comments? Isn't this a good deal?

My only comment would be that when you repost info from another thread, you should reference the origianlly thread.

Post 5 made on Monday October 21, 2002 at 18:36
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WARNING! I'd turn back if I were you.

This message was edited by edmund on 11/16/02 20:59.13.
Post 6 made on Thursday October 24, 2002 at 22:30
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whoever is selling it for that needs to have his balls cut off (and his supply of 700's cut off, too)- i have to pay $228 for them wholesale (and I sell them turn-key, programmed within an inch of their lives complete with a 'just watch the damn tv' macro for $500)
We can do it my way, or we can do it my way while I yell. The choice is yours.
Post 7 made on Friday October 25, 2002 at 12:30
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called them and got a few answers. they don't sell mx-700 anymore, and the price was wrong anyway.
Post 8 made on Friday October 25, 2002 at 15:44
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm........ why am I not surprised?
When ignorance is bliss, ‘tis folly to be wise.
OP | Post 9 made on Friday October 25, 2002 at 16:10
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Well, I guess I am not surprised either, since the price did seem close to cost. On the other hand, it is clearly illegal to enforce a retail price. This link,

[Link: news.com.com]

refers to the record companies' attempt at it. Quote:

"The lawsuit is based on what the attorneys general say is a long-standing conspiracy to prop up price of CDs.

The suit notes that discount retailers such as Wal-Mart, Circuit City, Best Buy and Kmart began offering CDs for low prices in the early 1990s, driving the price of a recording down from $15 to about $10.

In response, the suit alleges, other music retailers pressured the record companies to impose a minimum retail price for CDs. The labels added teeth to the policy by levying financial penalties on discount retailers that undercut this minimum price. "

So if someone wants to buy an mx-700 and sell it for $50, I am not sure what stands in the way, other than HTM refusing (legally?) to do business with them.
Post 10 made on Friday October 25, 2002 at 18:11
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On 10/25/02 12:30.13, tester said...
called them and got a few answers. they don't
sell mx-700 anymore, and the price was wrong anyway.

That's funny, I called them this morning and mine is due to ship early next week at the price that was advertised.
Post 11 made on Friday October 25, 2002 at 18:27
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I ordered mine this morning as well. Had to ask for a programming cable because they are only shipped with an order of 3.

--David
Post 12 made on Friday October 25, 2002 at 19:33
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On 10/25/02 16:10.03, Trun Cated said...
Well, I guess I am not surprised either, since
the price did seem close to cost. On the other
hand, it is clearly illegal to enforce a retail
price.
So if someone wants to buy an mx-700 and sell
it for $50, I am not sure what stands in the way,
other than HTM refusing (legally?) to do business
with them.

You are correct in your statement that it is illegal (under Antitrust law - vertical price fixing) to force someone by contract or in combination with others to sell an item at a minimum (or even maximum) price. However, a manufacturer may unilaterally set a specific resale price for an item he sells to a retailer. The retailer is free to sell the item at whatever price he wants, but the manufacturer may legally decide to stop selling the item to the retailer if he does not adhere to the resale price.

Bottom line is, if you can get one from Worthington at that price, move fast, because it likely won't be available for long.
Post 13 made on Friday October 25, 2002 at 23:53
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wrong wrong wrong wrong. Manufacturers can only set a price if they can prove that it is necessary to assure the level of service for a product that is necessary. I'm fairly sure that is what HTM is claiming in this particular case, but I have a feeling if anyone took them to court on it, it wouldn't be allowed, because the people selling it on-line to people who want to program the remote themsevles are not going to affect the sales by custom installers to people who want everything done for them by someone else. In any event, this is an amazingly anti-consumer stance by a manufacturer, and while I can understand its popularity with retailers of the product, I'm not sure I understand the lack of outrage by those in this forum who are consumers. But manufacturers normally can only suggest a retail price to retailers. They cannot refuse to sell to a retailer for failing to follow their suggested price, unless they can prove that the artificially maintained price is necessary to proctect the consumer.
OP | Post 14 made on Saturday October 26, 2002 at 00:29
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Bluedo has been awful quiet regarding this thread. Despite the posted price on their site, has anyone asked the for a discount? What will they actually sell it for today?
Post 15 made on Saturday October 26, 2002 at 02:01
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They cannot refuse to sell to a retailer for
failing to follow their suggested price, unless
they can prove that the artificially maintained
price is necessary to proctect the consumer.

JIFISH, I don't want to get into a legal discussion here (especially since I've retired from such a career). Personally, I'm against the whole concept and I agree with you about the anti-consumer stance, but I suggest you check case law on this matter. Unilateral price setting has been upheld by the Supreme Court.
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