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Post 1 made on Monday November 13, 2006 at 18:26
igor burger
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I use my Iponto to control lights (x10) as well as my a/v equipment. After (!) installing a surgeprotector my x10 receiver (Marmitek IR 7243) only allows me to control the lights which are on the same phase as my IR7243. (The IR7243 is a marmitek product sold in the Netherlands and appears to be the same as the IR543 if this is of any help). The IR7243 converts IR signals into x10.

Plugging the IR7243 in a wall socket on a different phase (and I do have the phase coupler installed) lets me control all lights in my house (as previously before the surgeprotector was installed). Problem is that I need to get off the couch and move to another part of my living room to do so, hence not really an option.

I also use marmitek's powermid XL which allows me to send X10 via IR to the powermid receiver which turns the signal received into RF 433. In turn, the powermid's second receiver picks up this RF 433 signal, turns it back into IR signals and subsequently emits this "converted" signal to my a/v equipment which is behind a door. It can also be used to control appliances in other rooms where the IR signal can't get to.

The question I raised with marmitek's support people was if the updated version of the IR 7243, which is the IRRF 7243 could be used. My plan was to plug in the IRRF 7243 in the other socket elsewhere in my livingroom (thus ensuring I could control all lights again) and use my Ipronto to send IR signals to the powermid which converts them into RF which signal could be picked up by the IRRF 7243. The latter could in turn convert this RF signal back into x10 and I don't need to get up from my couch.

Unfortunately, marmitek's support people are comparable to the Philips support people. Their answer was that it might work but they didn't know because they do not support the Ipronto's IR signals and the x10 commands are different if send by IR or RF. Not much help. Does anyone have experience with sending x10 command via the Ipronto (i.e. IR) to any sort of extender which turns the signal into RF 433 and have it converted from RF into x10 again. Preferrably using the equipment I mentioned above?
OP | Post 2 made on Tuesday January 9, 2007 at 07:37
igor burger
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Unfortunately, no one was able to help me out with my question (neither on other forums) so i bought the IRRF7243 X-10 receiver. Guess what, it didn't work because appearantly the IR commands are different from the RF commands used to control X-10 appliances. Should have taken the x-10 support guy's "I don't know" as "will not work". Looking into the pronto forum, I have found several references by a.o. dave Houston to a bit of software developped by him called CodeGen to generate x-10 commands that will do the trick with respect to my above problem. According to these messages, the issue was known already back in 2003. Problem now is that this piece of software is no-where to be found as the only site having it (www.mbx-usa.com) is offline. Does anyone have this software stored on an old HD somewhere? Would help me out a lot.
Post 3 made on Friday January 12, 2007 at 14:59
SirKalle
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Uh, I cannot help ya. But I control my X10 stuff (vendor "Marmitek" here in Europe) with my iPronto and this works great!

I even use a iPronto extender to send the IR signals to the IR receiver which then transforms that stuff to X10.

I have downloaded a complete .icf file here from the download area a long time ago which has already learned X10 commands build in. You can copy those commands and put them into your personal icf.

All I remember is that the housecode must be set to "P" or so ....

It works perfect.

Best regards,

Kalle
OP | Post 4 made on Monday January 15, 2007 at 06:21
igor burger
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thanks for your reply. I also used an old icf file with x-10 commands which worked until I started using the surgeprotector. My specific issue was that I could no longer use the extender because the receiving unit which transforms RF back into IR is placed next to the A/V equipment and the IR7243 did no longer work there (on that particular phase). Hence I wanted to use the IRRF 7243 and have the extender's RF signal picked up by the IRRF 7243 and found out that IR commands are different than RF commands to switch s.th on/off or dim/bright. The old icf x-10 commands therefor no longer did the job. Problem is solved now btw because s.o. else send me the Codegen program.


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