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Post 16 made on Sunday September 26, 2004 at 15:46
pjgregory
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Hi

Could you also send me a copy of the white paper. I've lost mine and I would just love the opportunity to read it again and get all wound up!

PJG
Post 17 made on Monday September 27, 2004 at 07:58
mkenyon
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On 09/26/04 19:46 ET, pjgregory said...
Hi

Could you also send me a copy of the white paper.
I've lost mine and I would just love the opportunity
to read it again and get all wound up!

PJG

Hi,

A copy is on its way.

Mike
Post 18 made on Monday September 27, 2004 at 13:36
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On 09/25/04 18:38 ET, bassfiend said...
I have - on several occasions - put forward the
suggestion/request that Philips implement either
a software NetX or a hardware NetX with a serial
port output rather than IR.

It should be the best idea to command a lot of HT units with RS232 inputs (like Barco tri-CRT, Equalisers, some pre-amp, a lot of video scalers and so on.. )
Hi Philips team : wake up ! ;)

Best regards
Jean-Max
OP | Post 19 made on Monday September 27, 2004 at 14:01
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On 09/25/04 18:38 ET, bassfiend said...
I have - on several occasions - put forward the
suggestion/request that Philips implement either
a software NetX or a hardware NetX with a serial
port output rather than IR.

The GC-100 has both an RS-232 port (two-way) and multiple I/O ports (used for IR or RF) and is 1/3 the cost (~$135 from Worthington) of the braindead NetX. There are versions with multiple RS-232 ports, relays, and additional I/O ports.

Letting the iPronto talk to the GC-100 over the LAN using WiFi would open up a multitude of possibilities.
Post 20 made on Monday September 27, 2004 at 15:49
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On 09/27/04 18:01 ET, Dave Houston said...
The GC-100 has both an RS-232 port (two-way) and
multiple I/O ports (used for IR or RF) and is
1/3 the cost (~$135 from Worthington) of the braindead
NetX. There are versions with multiple RS-232
ports, relays, and additional I/O ports.

Letting the iPronto talk to the GC-100 over the
LAN using WiFi would open up a multitude of possibilities.

Unfortunately Dave we don't get access to such toys - living, as we do, on the wrong side of the pond.

Phil
OP | Post 21 made on Monday September 27, 2004 at 16:18
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On 09/27/04 19:49 ET, bassfiend said...
Unfortunately Dave we don't get access to such
toys - living, as we do, on the wrong side of
the pond.

I think you'll find it available over there but at a higher price. If not, you should contact Global Caché about becoming their UK dealer.

  • [Link: globalcache.com]

    This message was edited by Dave Houston on 09/27/04 16:26 ET.
  • Post 22 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 02:09
    Jean-Max
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    On 09/27/04 18:01 ET, Dave Houston said...
    | Letting the iPronto talk to the GC-100 over the
    LAN using WiFi would open up a multitude of possibilities.

    With your post, I discover GC-100 :-)
    [Link: globalcache.com]

    Do you think it would be OK with Ipronto ?
    Somebody has tested ?
    Thanks :-)
    Jean-Max
    Post 23 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 02:11
    Jean-Max
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    On 09/27/04 19:49 ET, bassfiend said...
    | Unfortunately Dave we don't get access to such
    toys - living, as we do, on the wrong side of
    the pond.
    | Phil

    Hello Phil
    You mean that it's impossible for your company, to import from US, the GC-100 ?
    Jean-Max
    Post 24 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 05:13
    bassfiend
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    Hello Phil
    You mean that it's impossible for your company,
    to import from US, the GC-100 ?

    Not impossible but it is a pain in the backside when you have to bring stuff in specially ... warranties become a headache for example. Plus of course the home automation market in the UK is minute compared to the US so you'll probably only do a few units a year.

    Also it's illegal for us to sell something that isn't CE certified for use within the UK or Europe without making it very clear that the product *ISN'T* CE approved and therefore should not be used within the EU - most people can't work out (and of course we can't tell them) that that is a legal requirement and that the equipment itself won't simply explode when they plug it in.

    The other problem is that if we did bring in - say - the GC-100 then, as a business, we have to pay shipping (obviously), import duty and VAT. That has to be rolled into our selling price (along with some profit for us of course - we are a business after all) and then there's shipping out to the customer too. Now, the first thing that the techno-savvy punter does is go - "Hmmm ... wonder if I can find it cheaper? Oh look - it's nn% cheaper if I buy direct from the US." So they whack off an email to us telling us that we're robbing S.O.B.'s for charging "x" when they can source it for "y" direct from the US. :-)

    We do buy in quite a bit of kit from the US but we have to be carefull exactly what we do buy in.

    Phil
    OP | Post 25 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 06:46
    Dave Houston
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    On 09/28/04 06:09 ET, Jean-Max said...
    With your post, I discover GC-100 :-)
    [Link: globalcache.com]

    Do you think it would be OK with Ipronto ?
    Somebody has tested ?

    NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

    That's the whole point of the thread - the iPronto does NOT work with the GC-100.
    Post 26 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 10:39
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    On 09/28/04 10:46 ET, Dave Houston said...
    - the iPronto does NOT work with the GC-100.

    OK
    So return to the (dead ?) idea of a NetX with serial output ..
    Jean-Max
    Post 27 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 11:50
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    On 09/28/04 14:39 ET, Jean-Max said...
    OK
    So return to the (dead ?) idea of a NetX with
    serial output ..

    Xantech IR to RS232 converter?

    Phil
    Post 28 made on Tuesday September 28, 2004 at 18:54
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    The Xantech works great as a RS232 converter. I use it to control my Escient/Sony 400 disk DVD player. I would still like to see a device that would let me tap the video source from the escient to the iPronto. It would be great to cotrol the Escient from the iPronto screen.
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