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Post 31 made on Friday January 31, 2003 at 17:25
edesilva
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Mark-

Run this by me again--does the mainlobby software actually allow you to generate IR pulses from the progear tablet? Or, are the IR pulses generated from something attached to your PC in your bedroom and routed through repeaters to your HT?
Post 32 made on Friday January 31, 2003 at 17:38
edesilva
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Your solution interested me, esp. when you said "all this for UKP 450". Over here, the low end progear tablets appear to be just under $2K USD. Were you just talking about the software? Trying to figure out where my price disconnect is...
Post 33 made on Friday January 31, 2003 at 21:20
Archer
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Check EBay for the ProGear, new units are going for around $800 with USB charger stand and USB mouse.

Jack of all trades..
Master of None
OP | Post 34 made on Saturday February 1, 2003 at 17:24
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On 01/31/03 17:25, edesilva said...
Mark-

Run this by me again--does the mainlobby software
actually allow you to generate IR pulses from
the progear tablet? Or, are the IR pulses generated
from something attached to your PC in your bedroom
and routed through repeaters to your HT?

you are exactly right, the latter. I have connected a slink-e ir emmitter to my main pc in the bedroom and this in turn transmits via ir repeaters to the desired location.

the total price was all inclusive, i got my progear for a great price off ebay.

However i am not recommending this as the cheapo route instead of the ipronto, this does EVERYTHING the ipronto does but better.

full use of 10.5in screen as touchscreen remote.

higher resolution web surfing.

unlimited backgrounds including annimated and custom buttons.

full remote desktop for unlimited number of pcs. mobile monitor.

RF compatibility using serial adapters.

X10 compatibility

full girder support.

this is the business and its here NOW.

One last thing the progear is $3000 new so $600 is a bargain, buy for 1 year and sell for a profit, i dare you.

happy touchscreening

mark


OP | Post 35 made on Saturday February 1, 2003 at 17:35
perrin21
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all recent posts on this forum have been from the progear. It sits silently on the table with the display off and beeps whenever any of my windows messenger contacts come online. Cool! try that on the ipronto

i am not against the ipronto but philips should reconsider its pricing versus its function versus its expected customer base requirements. At 1100gbp we are talking very serious money for the average consumer and very serious function for the av junkie.

i would value the ipronto at 700gbp.

and reduce the colour pronto to 400gbp

for 1100gbp i would expect to be able to surf the net at 1024x768 at least. this is the price of a nice laptop.

just my ten penneth

mark

mark
Post 36 made on Sunday February 2, 2003 at 12:16
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Ok, just did some research on this tablet pc. Lots of people complaining about the Ir feature. If that doesn't work than its worthless as a remote control. It has a smaller screen than the Ipronto does. It isn't designed for this type of use, it is a wireless touchscreen computer that CAN be hacked to be a remote control. I think the product is discontinued, no mention of it on the sonicblue website and firesales at ebay are everywhere. NO HARD BUTTONS WHATSOEVER! That's a real pain in the ass. I like the hard buttons and the ability to change volume or channels without having to fire up the touchscreen for everything. When all is said and done, it will cost about the same as the street price of the Ipronto, retail on the tablet is over $3000.

A few other things to mention. Once Ipronto is released, there will be dozens of cool graphics and buttons for it, you can forget anything fancy with the tablet, unless you can do it yourself. Not much sharing or file swapping with the tablet, if any at all. More windows crap, please enough already. You have to wait for the tablet to boot up, operational crashes and other nonsense.

I have read enough to know that i want the Ipronto, to each his own. Give me something designed to be a remote, in current producion with hard buttons, a larger screen and a community like this to troubleshoot and swap files. Oh, and it will most likely street for less than all of the tablet, wireless cards, software package and IR transmitters too!
OP | Post 37 made on Monday February 3, 2003 at 05:13
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hi beever, firstly, not trying to offend, if the ipronto suits you (fantastic good job philips).

However let me address some points of your confusion.

1) lack of infra red, the infra red is sent directly from the main pc via a slink-e ir emitter via ir repeaters. I agree that this is not as sexy as the built in ir but it has the ability to fire different ir to different rooms if required so the added function is worth it. In normal use this isn#t an issue.

2) It was discontinued because it was too much too soon and at $3000 was too expensive.

3) lack of hard buttons, bummer agreed, but the larger screen is the tradeoff. I have equivalent buttons on all of my screens.

4) customiseation and sexy screens and buttons, I think you should check out the mainlobby software ( www.cinemaronline.com ), it allows full customiseation of everything, and includes some very sexy screens and buttons to start you off (oh and its only $60, thirty quid. Will be updated over time to improve interface even further.

5) file sharing, only time will tell, the software is still in its infancy but is very pollished and useable already. Some files and buttons are already available on the website.

6) Boot times and stability, ooh windows takes ages to boot, i agree with that.
BUT the progear can be set to display off after 2 minutes of inactivity, i leave mine on all the time in its cradle and just touch the screen for instant on. Mine has never crashed once, not bad for a win 98 based machine.

7) It is made out of tough magnesium alloy, the case could take a fair knock, i am sure of that.

8) the battery can withstand over 5 hours of constant use (networked and full resolution).

if what i have said here, and after you have checked out the cinemar website you are still sold on the ipronto then that is good too.

As you rightly said each to their own. just offering an alternative.

Ipronto, not a choice, just a lack of options (armageddon).

mark
OP | Post 38 made on Tuesday February 4, 2003 at 14:39
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Hi all, anybody interested, a new forum has been created for the mainlobby software, i know this is an ipronto thread but as its a competing solution it may be of some interest. [Link: caseserve.com]

There is also a place to share screens and buttons etc. But you can see this for yourself.

Please don't flame me, this is not an advertisement just some info.

Mark
Post 39 made on Tuesday February 4, 2003 at 21:28
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i know this is an ipronto thread but as its a competing solution it may be of some interest.

actually an ipronto forum :-) but you might want to post your info on the PDA/HPC forum since it is for people who want to use computers as remotes
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