Hi All

Been a long time since I posted here, having previously been using a Philips Pronto, I change to a Harmony 555 about 2 years ago and never looked back as it has been so simple to get working, not as powerful as my Pronto from a setup point of view but I've managed to get everything working as I want so I've been happy.

SO happy in fact that I also purchased one for my parents to use with their home setup!

Now, my brother is interested in getting a harmony to ease the remote control situation, I was going to recommend the 555 but to my disappointment I have found that it's no longer available and the replacements at the same price point, the 600 and the 650 can only control 5 devices - the 555 can control 15!

I realise that the more expensive models can control more but I do feel it's a shame that Logitech have decided to cut the lower budget models back so much as it makes them of little use to someone with a few pieces of kit!

Can anyone suggets any decent alternatives, or should I suggets to my brother to go for eiter a second hand 555 if he can find one, or pay the now inflated price for one on ebay?

With a Harmony 670 that appears to have just died, I'm in the same boat of looking around at options, and just as disappointed as you in what I'm seeing with current Harmony models. I don't know what's happening in the overall universal remote market lately, but this brain damaged current product selection from Harmony is rather appalling. I've been given a 50% discount code to use on one of the new models, and after reading about them I'm going to ebay to find another 670! Logitech seems to be screwing up a good thing.

It's just totally ridiculous, especially in today's economic climate, for Logitech to limit a $150 retail remote to 6 devices.

You can control more than 5 devices, but you need to learn the commands (using original device remote) for your additional device into one or more of the 5 devices.

It will get you by for everyday use, for example you don't need too many commands to control your DVD player. So it could just be additional commands for one of the other devices.

true but that rather defeats the whole point of having the harmony, the easy setup from their databases.

It's even funnier in Europe where, for Sky, we need the color buttons (red, green, blue, yellow) and they are available, among the not retarded models, only on the Harmony 900. They didn't even bother producing a One version for Europe. I don't need RF, so I skipped the 900 and for substituting my 785 I went with a 555 from ebay. And I plan on buying a second one, just in case.