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Samsung TV switching TV input on Start
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Post 1 made on Wednesday March 10, 2010 at 12:41
jwberger
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I have a Samsung HL-P5085W, a Yamaha Stereo Receiver and a DirectTV H22 DVR. The DVR plugs into the Yamaha HDMI 1 source and the Yamaha receiver goes out to the Samsung HDMI input. It is the only HDMI input this TV has. I have configured my Harmony 700 to turn on those items when I want to watch TV. It is configured to put the Yamaha on HDMI 1 input and the TV on HDMI input. However, when I click Watch TV and everything turns on, everything seems to work very briefly but this I see the TV's control panel flicker and then it changes input to the Air\Antenna. I then click help and the TV flickers again and changes to input AV1, which the Yamaha plugs into from Video5 for the Phillips DVD player. I then follow through the questions on the help screen and eventually get back to the HDMI input. It looks the TV cycles to the next input no matter where it is. Is there a way I can fix this to stay\go directly to HDMI input.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

John
Post 2 made on Wednesday March 10, 2010 at 13:15
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It sounds like your TV Adjust Inputs is configured to use the cycling method (Method 1), but it can also support the discrete method (Method 2), which is also the current default method. Go into device mode and try all the input commands. Send each command more than once and note their behaviour (toggling/cycling vs discrete action). If your TV does support the desired discrete input commands, then change its Adjust Inputs configuration accordingly. It's under Device > Settings > Adjust inputs. Select Method 2, edit (rename/add/delete) the input list if needed (order is irrelevant), select the correct command (you tested above) from the drop-down list for each input.

If you have to use the cycling method, then the list of inputs and cycling order in the Harmony Adjust Inputs configuration must match your device exactly. You must also answer the questions correctly (skipping inputs, input on power on).
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OP | Post 3 made on Wednesday March 10, 2010 at 14:25
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When I configured the remote and added the TV it stated that it determined my TV cycled through the inputs and I needed to check the ones that I use. I check Air (even though I don't use it), AV1, and HDMI. I left Air check because it seems to cycle through it even if it is not used. Is it better to uncheck it?
Post 4 made on Wednesday March 10, 2010 at 14:54
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If it shows up in the list on the TV then it needs to be in the harmony setup as well - they have to match exactly. 2 possibilities here:

1 - the TV goes to HDMI like it should, but doesn't see a HDMI signal and defaults back to air. This can sometimes happen due to the receiver being in the middle. You can test it by leaving the TV on HDMI with the receiver and DVR being off, then turning the TV back on manually. If it goes to AIR then that's it and you'll need to adjust the power-on delays and maybe input delays to allow time to sync up.

2 - it's just selecting the wrong input on the TV. Double check the list of inputs on the TV and make sure it matches. Check the other behaviors (do you hit enter to select the input or not, etc.) including what the TV does when it powers on (stays on last selected input or always goes to a specific input). If all that looks correct try increasing the inter-device delay for the TV - it may just be missing commands.
OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday March 10, 2010 at 16:46
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I know it is not that it does not see a HDMI signal because I can see the picture for about 2 to 3 seconds then it swithes. Also, I did a test and set the TV on the AV1 input and then turn everything off. Then when I turned everthing on the TV switched to the next input which was HDMI. I also did the same thing putting the TV on Antenna before shutting everything off and when I turned everything back on it switched to AV1. So, my feeling is it is toggling to the next input not matter which one I am on. I did change the order of start up, so that the TV was last thinking the same thing you were, but it did not seem to help.

When I select the input source on either the original TV remote or the DirectTv remote it just moves to the next input source that is senses. From HDMI it goes to antenna (again even though I technically not using it, no signal), from antenna it goes to AV1 and then from AV1 back to HDMI. I cannot just select which input I want.
Post 6 made on Wednesday March 10, 2010 at 16:56
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Sounds like it thinks your TV always starts on AV1 so it sends a next input to go to HDMI. If it starts on HDMI then it still sends the next input which causes it to go to Air/Tuner. Check the option for "TV stays on the last input selected" and not "it always goes to a specific input". That's what it sounds like. I have no other logical explanation.
OP | Post 7 made on Wednesday March 10, 2010 at 20:10
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Got it working. Thanks to all for all the information. I really learned a lot about the remote that I did not know. I ended up having to use method two that jlet said to do. I could select the appropriate input for each one. Now it works great.
Post 8 made on Thursday April 29, 2010 at 11:16
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I have a similar problem. I looked for an option on my tv to switch how the source menu is handled, and could not find anything. I have a Samsung PN50C550G1F, and a Logitech Harmony 620. The tv displays a list style source menu when the source button is pressed, and both the down button and the source button will cycle through the source list. Both buttons cycle down, and the up button will cycle up.

To get to, say, HDMI1, it seems the remote doesn't just "go down one because it thinks it's on AV1 and HDMI is one below it". It seems like it searches for something and is never able to find it. Even if it does end up on HDMI1, it won't close the source list by pressing "enter", which leads me to believe that it didn't actually know it was going to HDMI1, but just happened to fall on it.

I can't think of anything else you should know, but if there is anything just let me know.

Thanks!
Post 9 made on Thursday April 29, 2010 at 12:36
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Did you try method 2 above? Go into Device mode, select the TV and try all of the listed input commands to see if you can go directly to the input you want. This won't be in the TV menu and it may not even be available via the samsung remote but the commands may exist in the harmony database.


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