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Newbie. Is Harmony best for RF?
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Post 31 made on Sunday January 11, 2009 at 21:23
rugyboogie
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Hi Guys
Thanks for the quick responses
My Marantz RC-5400 is at this time dead. When I was using it I would have to point and click at each different component that I wanted to control. I would have to toggle between the different components on the menu of the RC-5400.
I do not use RF, IR or smoke and mirrors. (I could not resist.)
The purpose of the new remote is to do the following functions with one button to turn on the gear in the right order. If I have to I could move the remote to the general direction of the components, the only thing that might be hassle would be the overhead projector which is behind me.

1. Watch Blue Ray
2. Watch HD-DVD
3. Listen to CD
4. Listen to LP
5. Listen to Transporter/Hard-drive.

The room size is 21'9"x9'x14'2"

So, purely out of convenience I want an easy to use remote for all, and when I update or change components in my system I want to be able to do it myself from the data base from Harmony.
The rewire option I do not like, would the RF work? If so how?

Thanks again,
Rugyboogie
Post 32 made on Sunday January 11, 2009 at 23:21
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Well the absence of RF on the Harmony One and/or the desire not to rewire would lend to using something more like the 890. I unfortunately have never used that remote, so actual install suggestions hopefully will be adressed by someone else on here.

I'll assume that you have some power source (outlet) at your projector location. Seeing as the projector is the hole in the control, and the one item that will need your RF based control, I'd suggest placing your basestation at that location.

If the rest can be controlled by IR, then you should be good to go. If not, and you want RF control for those devices. Look into getting another basestation and locating that one at your equipment. Or... it could just be that the other equipment can more easily use an IR extender, with minor wiring, (under carpet ???)

Some have claimed in this forum (even this thread) that the Harmony RF isn't the best. Consider maybe a different manufacturer. Possibly URC could be an option. They also make a wizard base enduser programmable remote, that also has a continually updated IR database online. Research is your friend if you go that route. Don't buy outside of authorized dealers.

Hope I helped...

Good luck...!
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Post 33 made on Monday January 12, 2009 at 09:28
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If you had said the "only" complaint against the One is lack of RF then I'd probably agree. I can't remember seeing any real complaints about the One at all, other than minor quibbles about having 6 vs. 8 buttons. So yes, I guess it is possible the lack of RF is the number one complaint but I don't think it's a *frequent* complaint at all. I still think the number of potential buyers who want RF is limited, and I suppose you see it the other way around, so we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
Post 34 made on Monday January 12, 2009 at 10:01
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In all honesty, it's my mistake. I frequent many boards, and have seen numerous complaints/confusion on Harmony's exclusion of RF in regards to the One.

I will agree with you that the masses most likely will not see a use, or have any desire for RF. That's just a numbers game based on volume though, and I'd wager if you polled first time buyers, you'd find they aren't even aware of the existance of RF, let alone the option of it.

The bottom line is. RF is pretty much a standard option on quality remotes. Especially those that claim to be everything you could possibly need. If you were to look beyond the wizard programming. The only mis-step I can see with the One is the lack of RF. If it was included, the One would be an extremely hard piece to beat at that price point.
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Post 35 made on Monday January 12, 2009 at 12:46
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Ok, I get it now. For the small percentage of folks who want high end remotes with RF, multi-room capability or whole house integration or those that just prefer RF - I could see where lack of RF would be a major complaint with the Harmony One. But for the 90%+ who just want to replace their OEM IR remotes with one intelligent remote it's not an issue. Different perspectives I guess.
Post 36 made on Monday January 12, 2009 at 13:18
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I wouldn't go as far as that... You don't have to look at the high end to find RF options. I mean Harmony saw fit to enable the 890 with RF. I would think the majority, including myself, would consider the One a further advanced remote than the 890.

Why they didn't include it on the One, I'm sure will remain a mystery.
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Post 37 made on Monday January 12, 2009 at 13:49
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Because it would raise the price of the One too much and cut into sales? I don't think the 890 sold that well compared to the 880.
Post 38 made on Monday January 12, 2009 at 13:56
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That certainly makes sense.... Cause like you said, why bump up the price of a remote when the vast majority wouldn't be using the RF capability anyway.
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Post 39 made on Monday January 12, 2009 at 14:41
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And you already have a RF capable remote available in the 890.......
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