I recently bought a Harmony 890 thinking that i can ude the RF to control my Bose LS50. Guess i should have done more research. I am not find out that i will need a converter. I have seen people speak of RF battery transmitters but i can't find on for the 890 and i am not sure if it will work with the BOSE LS50. I have also hear about the Model C-1024A IR converter but i really don't want to pay $200 for more hardware. Any suggestions for cheaper solutions via battery transmitters or cheaper IR converters or anything that will get me rolling. Any help is greatly appreciated.


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The 890 uses the Z-wave RF protocol to control its own RF to IR repeater and Z-Wave compatible devices. RF battery transmitter devices communicate only with their RF to IR repeaters. If you can find how to set your Bose system to IR mode, then it may work if you select the Bose model "321 GSX" in the Harmony device model selection. This workaround is described in this thread: [Link: remotecentral.com]

Yeah i found out about that Zwave RF i like how thye make no mention of that on the box it leads you to beleive that it is standard RF. I have a Bose Lifestyle 50 there is no IR mode on it. It is only RF, is there no cost effective hope for me??

Even if the 890 used regular RF, it would not be able to control you Bose system because it's against the rule for one RF device to interfere with another. The Z-Wave RF protocol is the only way around that rule.

But that's just it - there is no such thing as "standard RF" control of a device other than Z wave. Every device is granted an operating frequency by the FCC and no other device can use that same frequency. This prevents, e.g., your garage door opener from turning on your ceiling fan and vice versa. I can only assume Z wave uses a single frequency with digital encoding to identify the device being controlled - similar to a wireless home computer network.

Did you assume the Bose was Zwave compatible or did you assume that any RF remote could control any RF device? Either way it was a bad assumption on your part.



Do as jlet suggested and check the other threads. Some Bose models are capable of IR control, some aren't. If it's not, then you're stuck with it until you toss it.

Now you know one reason why Bose is a 4 letter word to some people. "Better Sound through Marketing".

I actually did assume all RF was the same looking at the 890 packaging it does nto say Z Wave RF it is marketed saying RF so you are led to beleive that. Well here and now i know beter. Still a nice remote but not for my application. As for checking the other thread that is not an option as my Bose unit only does RF no IR at all. So i wanted options on items like "Model C-1024A IR converter" which takes IR and converts it to RF that the BOSE can understand and also the RF battery transmitters. Really looking for opions on those and or other alternatives.

You just don't get it, do you? NOTHING can use the same RF frequency as your Bose unit EXCEPT BOSE. It's prohibited by the FCC so that devices from different mfrs can't interfere with each other. If your Bose unit doesn't accept IR then you're SOL.

I guess your not getting what i'm saying so what i will do is i will just try the suggestions that have been said to work by others and i will respond back with results

I guess you're not getting what I'm saying, either. Those other solutions won't work either - they will only send RF to another proprietary receiver - NOT to your Bose unit.

If your BOSE LS won't do IR then you're stuck with the Bose RF remote. Period.

NO OTHER RF REMOTE CAN LEGALLY CONTROL YOUR BOSE LIFESTYLE UNIT.

I'm just trying to save you a lot of grief trying to get something to work that can't possibly work.

In your list of suggestions (RF battery transmitter, and C-1024A), only the Audio Authority Model C-1024A IR converter will work. The C-1024A is NOT and IR to RF converter. It takes IR and controls your Bose LS50 through a cable connected into the rear panel serial jack of your Bose system. I don't know if there are other cheaper C-1024A alternatives.

So there is a way to control it via IR - through a serial cable. Interesting. Still won't work with RF though.

Ohh it is a serial cable ok that is good info i did not know that. But at least glad to have a solid solution. Thanks for the info

I assumed you already knew that, since you mentioned it (C-1024A). I had to google it, to find out how it works.