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Harmony One and Samsung LCD TV
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Post 1 made on Saturday March 22, 2008 at 16:12
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Hope someone can help with this. I cannot get the setup software to correctly identify the source selection button from the original TV remote. It comes up with a list of discrete buttons but not the one that is labeled 'source' on the original remote. Please help!!!
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Post 2 made on Saturday March 22, 2008 at 16:39
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What is the model number of your Samsung TV? When you add a device, it comes with an IR dataset from the Harmony database. When you configure a device (power & input settings), you don't need the OEM remote. The OEM remote should be use only to teach missing commands or to confirm the IR dataset for devices supporting multiple IR datasets (for multiple modes).

Many devices support discrete commands even if they are not on the OEM remote. You should check all the available dataset commands in device mode. Check the Device > Settings > Customize buttons > Standard & Additional Buttons to see which label names is associated with which command names. Don't confuse label names with command names. If your device supports discrete input selection, then it's the method (Method 2) you should use.
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OP | Post 3 made on Saturday March 22, 2008 at 18:41
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Television is Samsung LE46F86BDX. UK Version.

How do you make each activity use the discrete input selection rather than the cycle through method? Thanks for the quick response by the way.

I can't seem to get the flippin thing to learn any(okay one or two) commands. Does not seem to want to pick them up from the original remotes. My All-in-one which I am still using never had that problem. It was always instantaneous with its learning.

Also when setup how do you use the Harmony to switch off each device separately after you have used the activity function to switch them all on?

Sorry if the above is obvious. I have never had this much trouble using any other gadget GGGRRRRR!!!
I Hate it when things are difficult to set up!!!!
Post 4 made on Saturday March 22, 2008 at 20:30
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To specify discrete inputting go to Devices> TV> Settings> Adjust Inputs> Choose Method 2.
It shouldn't need to learn any commands for the Samsung; they'll all be in the database, maybe with slightly different names.
You don't need to switch each device off separately. Each Activity switches on the devices it needs, and when you change to another activity it switches off those it won't need in the new activity, leaves the others on, and switches on any more that it will need for the new activity.
You use the Off button only when you've finished with all activities for the session, or for the day.
Post 5 made on Saturday March 22, 2008 at 22:04
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The IR dataset for you Samsung LE46F86BDX contains many discrete input and power commands. That does not mean you particular model will support them all. The dataset is by brand rather than by specific model. That is why you should try all the commands in device mode. Besides the discrete commands, you may find other "easter egg" commands leaving you OEM remote in the dust.

The Harmony is an activity based remote. View the activity like a high level manager. The grunts are the device power and input settings. It's the device input settings (not the activities) that determines how to switch input and what command(s) to use. You specify the desired input in the activity wizard. The wizard ask for an "high level" input label name (not a method, nor a command name).

The default device adjust input settings for your TV is already configured to use the discrete method (Method 2). On the left, you will see the input label names, and on the right you will see their associated command names. You may need to verify the behaviour of these commands in device mode. See my post #2 above.

The default device adjust power settings for your TV is configured to use the toggle method (one button for both) along with the PowerToggle command. I see the discrete PowerOn and PowerOff in the dataset. Test them in device mode. If they work properly, then reconfigure the power settings to use the discrete method (separate buttons for each) along with the PowerOn and PowerOff commands from the drop-down list.

Note: The Harmony configuration interface is very infantile. Read between the lines. It often refers to the OEM remote buttons. Ignore that, put the OEM remote away, and instead use the database commands from the command drop-down list (small window with a tiny v).

Once you are done configuring the devices, then create/modify your activities. Then use the activity Customize Buttons to add/modify the activity button mapping. You can map any command from any participating device to any activity key. The soft labelled keys are under the Addition Buttons tab.
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OP | Post 6 made on Sunday March 23, 2008 at 05:39
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Thanks very much guys. Figured most of it now. Will come back to you with a couple of other questions. :-)

Funny thing is. My TV has a PC input but when i tried it before using the harmony it did not work. option was greyed out in menu as well. i was really upset about that. some of the reviews of my tv say it has a pc input and a couple did not mention it. i then tried the command 'input rgb' on the harmony and hey presto it switched to the pc input. the source button on the original remote would cycle through inputs but the pc one did not appear at all. Have i come across a supposedly disabled feature?
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Post 7 made on Sunday March 23, 2008 at 18:09
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On March 23, 2008 at 05:39, Interested said...
PC input....option was
greyed out in menu as well.

In what menu, the TV's?
If so that usually means that nothing is connected to the PC input socket.
Post 8 made on Sunday March 23, 2008 at 18:13
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Also, like I said before, you just found an "easter egg" command leaving your limiting OEM remote in the dust. The OEM remotes usually don't have discrete input buttons because they would use up too much space, although your device may support them.
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Post 9 made on Monday March 24, 2008 at 18:03
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These discrete codes ARE yet another advantage about the Harmonys.


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